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Surely you can't play an unregistered player, they wouldn't be insured would they.

I am not sure whether there was any money remaining in our budget before we signed Radders back. Maybe there was but we couldn't pay Kris because the money was already ear-marked for Fielden? We've offloaded some players to free up more space, we'll be screwed if we make the play-offs though and the players expect win bonuses!

How could we have broken the salary cap during the Warrington game? You can't spend £1.7m on wages in one game. If you had multiplied up Warrington's wage during the play-offs last season would they have exceeded the cap in a similar manner? Isn't this why Lima has been offloaded, in anticipation that the Roosters will finish outside the Top 6 and Morley will be eligible to play at the end of the year?

My point being... you can do a lot within the rules that, at first, doesn't seem legitimate.

primrose-n-blue posted:
Rubbish Mike...You team was in breach of the salary cap...because clubs new a season in advance of the pending changes.

The salary cap became a flat rate cap in 2004. The level of 1.8 million for that season was set in 2003. Various figures were bandied about incluidng £1.3 million which is what Cas and other smaller teams wanted.

It is a fact that contracts spanned those two season and had Cas got their way, several clubs would have needed a dispensation the following season.

In fact Hethrington of Leeds is on record as saying the level was set such that only one club would actually be affected, Wigan, because coincidentally his club paid about 1.8 million quid in wages.

It was not that Leeds reduced their wage bill to be compliant witht eh cap, that is what their wage bill already was!

Rather than release players to bring Wigan in line, Chairman Mo revealed the details to the league and asked for concideration on the size of previous contracts....It was granted by a majority vote, then what did Wigan do...they went out and signed another player streight after, wish I could remember who it was.

It was Danny Tickle. What you fail to grasp is Wigan were given a level of slary cap to spend and even though they signed Tickle they didn't break it.

Do Warrington now they are cash rich not pay up to the limit of their cap? If it were for some reason higher than anyone elses then you can bet your house on the fact they would utilise the money.

Wigan had another season of silverware too on the back of it.

This ain't trolling. It's dam facts.

No ots yout opinion where you ignore the whole senario of what wenton at the time the cap was introducred because it suits your argument.

It is this selective vision than annoys us.

PS
PPS
We all know that for the game against Warrington you could have possibly been in breach of the salary cap.

How does that work? The salary cap is audited once when all the wages have been paid.

It's a fact that Wigan did not register Fielden with the RFL as a Wigan player until 45mins before kick off after pressure from the RFL, does this not set off alarm bells or at least some question why this was so??

You can't play unregistered players. If Wigan had not registered him he would either have still been a Brdford player or no ones player (assuming Bradford had de-registerted him).

Come on...I know your thinking something fishy has gone on there even the die-hards that are in denial can't turn their backs on this one.
It's obvious that Mo was hoping to be able to play Fielden as an unregistered player and therfore avoiding him as a count on the salary cap.

You can't play unregistered players.

Dave

Maybe you are right ? who knows, but the RL would still like Wigan to prove they are operating within the Salary cap and suddenly KB is of to the Galpharm, or has Uncle Mo and DW got his sums wrong ? it will come out in the wash won't it lets hope they have got there sums correct or a fine and points deduction will be possible.
How do you spell supporters in Wigan ( Sorry could not resist that one)

Scudley posted:
How do you spell supporter's in Wigan ( Sorry could not resist that one)

same as you do, except without the apostrophe.

same as you do, except without the apostrophe.

What apostrophe ??? LOL
Sorry to rip the p*ss but with Grammar like that you have to sort of expect it....

back to the original post, i am starting to get fed up with the saints supporters on my MSN, if you are my mate, stop annoying me

Scudley posted:
same as you do, except without the apostrophe.

What apostrophe ??? LOL
Sorry to rip the p*ss but with Grammer like that you have to sort of expect it....

Nice edit!
The apostrophe in "supporter's" (as opposed to the plural: "supporters")!

If you're going to correct spellings, which I rarely do, at least get your own right..and it's "grammar", by the way, not grammer.

GeoffN posted:

Scudley posted:
same as you do, except without the apostrophe.

What apostrophe ??? LOL
Sorry to rip the p*ss but with Grammer like that you have to sort of expect it....

Nice edit!
The apostrophe in "supporter's" (as opposed to the plural: "supporters")!

If you're going to correct spellings, which I rarely do, at least get your own right..and it's "grammar", by the way, not grammer.

It's a bit of fun Geoff
Get over it

Scudley posted:
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It's a bit of fun Geoff
Get over it

I know! that's why I put in the

Just my weird sense of humour...

primrose-n-blue posted:

mike binder posted:
We didnt break any rules fact we were a proffesional club and were legally bind to pay wages

Rubbish Mike...You team was in breach of the salary cap...because clubs new a season in advance of the pending changes.
Rather than release players to bring Wigan in line, Chairman Mo revealed the details to the league and asked for concideration on the size of previous contracts....It was granted by a majority vote, then what did Wigan do...they went out and signed another player streight after, wish I could remember who it was.
Wigan had another season of silverware too on the back of it.

This ain't trolling. It's dam facts.

PS
Look...I have no reason to post msg's just to wind you up.
I enjoy talking all things rugby league and it just so happens that you pies are the best at it.
To be really honest...Wigan have been my second club for years.

I have no gripes about Wigan gaining an advantage. If the clubs are willing enough to let Chairman Mo walk all over them so be it.

PPS
We all know that for the game against Warrington you could have possibly been in breach of the salary cap.
It's a fact that Wigan did not register Fielden with the RFL as a Wigan player until 45mins before kick off after pressure from the RFL, does this not set off alarm bells or at least some question why this was so??
Come on...I know your thinking something fishy has gone on there even the die-hards that are in denial can't turn their backs on this one.
It's obvious that Mo was hoping to be able to play Fielden as an unregistered player and therfore avoiding him as a count on the salary cap.

You forgot to add that Wigan are the only club to of been scrutinised by an independant investigation and found NOT to be braking the rules. Also remember that other clubs had been fully profesional by the third and fourth year that we did. You make it out like most clubs were not pofesional and that is an out and out lie.
What Wigan did was to drag the other clubs who came kicking screaming and winging into the profesional era of the game. The other clubs realised the improvements profesionalism brought and have never forgiven us for it