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cpwigan wrote:

Warrior20 wrote:[quote="cpwigan
Was he? He certainly did not reflect his fantastic salary.

The majority think he was.

Who?[/quote]

Many RL fans and many different forums including NZ Warriors fans. You appear to be the exception.

Warrior20 wrote:

cpwigan wrote:

Warrior20 wrote:[quote="cpwigan
Was he? He certainly did not reflect his fantastic salary.

The majority think he was.

Who?

Many RL fans and many different forums including NZ Warriors fans. You appear to be the exception.[/quote]

But not the NZW

**In reply to CPWigan**



I agree with you re Sam's worth going down. That imo isn't down to him being a failure but not replicating his Super League form down under. Something which I think we all knew would be impossible due to the NRL being the far better comp because of the strength in depth of both players and teams. That is different to him being a failure imo.

Sam still has a season left to improve and maybe change your mind.


Sorry messed up the quote.

cpwigan wrote:

Warrior20 wrote:

cpwigan wrote: The majority think he was.

Who?

Many RL fans and many different forums including NZ Warriors fans. You appear to be the exception.

But not the NZW [/quote]

Who says? You?

They have only let him go after finding a replacement. The only reason that he wants to leave is because he is homesick. They clearly don't consider him a failure. He seems very well rated by the commentators and people in the know. He has had a very good first season in the NRL, playing every match, with another season to go.

TV Warrior wrote:**In reply to CPWigan**



I agree with you re Sam's worth going down. That imo isn't down to him being a failure but not replicating his Super League form down under. Something which I think we all knew would be impossible due to the NRL being the far better comp because of the strength in depth of both players and teams. That is different to him being a failure imo.

Sam still has a season left to improve and maybe change your mind.


Sorry messed up the quote.

I always believe Sam makes decisions to suit Sam financially. To me the homesick reason is an excuse. In 2014 Sam was already courting headlines such as 'Sam Tomkins tempted by rugby union switch'. Sam and his advisors have calculated that the 400,000 salary he currently receives at the NSW would never be repeated, indeed would drop significantly to the point he gets out now, secures a lengthy SL contract which whilst less than he is currently will be better than 1 year of £400,000 + a lesser NRL contract and could provide a longer term deal etc.

When you are paid the same as Inglis and Slater then how you are judged is very different from lesser players. On that comparison Sam failed. It may have made him a better player though as he developed his passing against tougher defences. Sam should still be fantastic in SL for another 3 years but beyond that?

If you are paid the big bucks you have to deliver big bucks simply not look an NRL player. Ellery / Sam B did that, Sam T did not. He will still be fantastic for Wigan though. Imagine had he been here in 2014, we would have won the double!

Is this evidence-based research cp, of just your opinion?

They have only let him go after finding a replacement. The only reason that he wants to leave is because he is homesick. They clearly don't consider him a failure. He seems very well rated by the commentators and people in the know. He has had a very good first season in the NRL, playing every match, with another season to go.[/quote]

But if before their season started, he got wind of Auckland looking at Tuivasa Sheck with a view to signing him, that wouldn't go down too well with Sam. We'll probably never know but it's just a thought.

cpwigan wrote:

Warrior20 wrote:

cpwigan wrote: The majority think he was.

Who?

Many RL fans and many different forums including NZ Warriors fans. You appear to be the exception.

But not the NZW [/quote]

Don't forget, CP has the inside track on all reasoning in all SL, NRL and RU clubs and knows for sure what is happening here with 100% certainty including the contents of all contracts and even potential contracts that will be offered in 3-5 years time. Anyone else with another interpretation not based on these hard facts is naive and wrong.

The only conclusion anyone should be drawing is that Sam is a failure motivated not by excellence only by money.

Mike wrote:

cpwigan wrote:

Warrior20 wrote: Who?

Many RL fans and many different forums including NZ Warriors fans. You appear to be the exception.

But not the NZW

Don't forget, CP has the inside track on all reasoning in all SL, NRL and RU clubs and knows for sure what is happening here with 100% certainty including the contents of all contracts and even potential contracts that will be offered in 3-5 years time. Anyone else with another interpretation not based on these hard facts is naive and wrong.

The only conclusion anyone should be drawing is that Sam is a failure motivated not by excellence only by money.[/quote]

Spot on Mike

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