what punishment did Briers get for this?Sam the man
Re: Sam the man
what punishment did Briers get for this?Gareth Thomas before his first game: "You wanna spend 10 mins getting smashed up by these guys..Big dudes here.."
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Re: Sam the man
Put this photo up earlier in the thread, he got no punishment.gpartin wrote:
Sam has been fined by the club & the RFL albeit suspended.
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
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Re: Sam the man
Ralph Ellis was unimpressed by Sam Tomkins two-fingered salute to Leeds fans last weekend. However, the youngster's talent is not in doubt and he could be crucial to Wigan's chances of success this season.
For young sports stars, the world can seem a strange place. From the moment their talent first emerges they are pampered, cosseted, cared for and generally protected from all of life's ills. The rules that apply to the mere mortals around them begin to be bent.
Can't get to training? Don't worry, somebody will be organised to give you a lift. Forgot your kit? No problem, you can borrow some. Got in a fight? Bound to have been the other lad's fault and not yours.
It all breeds a feeling of invincibility; a sense that you can do anything and get away with it. And too often clubs feed that false impression. Manchester United are still grumbling that Wayne Rooney got punished for swearing into the lens of a TV camera as he celebrated a goal at West Ham last season.
So it was good to see that Wigan's owner Ian Lenagan was strong enough to lay down the law to his starlet Sam Tomkins after Rugby League's big hope blotted his copybook during last week's Challenge Cup final at Wembley. The 22-year-old could clearly be seen flashing a V-sign at Leeds fans as he celebrated his brother Joel's brilliant dancing try on the way to a 28-18 victory.
Sam tried to pretend it hadn't happened. "Don't know what you're talking about," he said in answer to questions, even though the picture that proved it was already flashing round the world. Meanwhile his brother was blaming the Rhinos fans, who had booed the boy when he was playing for England. "People should realise what a star we've got in him . . . he deserves a bit more respect than he's getting," was his verdict. Even the authorities let him escape with a slap on the wrist. While Rooney was banned for two games for his "celebration", Tomkins got just a £1,000 fine, and even that was suspended until the end of next season.
So it was left to Wigan's owner to take a stronger stance, handing out a club fine and demanding that his player issue a public apology, before declaring the club was "ashamed" of his behaviour.
You hope that means Tomkins will have learned enough of a lesson when he inevitably gets yet another lot of stick from an opposition crowd in Sunday's top of the table Super League clash at Warrington. The best way to answer when you are booed and jeered is to score points on the pitch, and it's a fair bet that both Sam and Joel will be fired up to do exactly that. Ironically the two were both boyhood Warrington fans, but that will only add some extra spice.
It's an added twist that makes Wigan good value at odds against - currently up to 2.28 for Sunday's showdown. After a slow start to the season they are now a point clear at the top of the table. With one trophy already on the shelf from last weekend, Wigan are now 2.26 favourites to win the Grand Final too. If they do you can expect the young Tomkins to find a more appropriate celebration.
Five things you might not know about Ian Lenagan
1. Born 1946 in Scholes, part of Wigan, he played rugby league as a boy for local club St Patrick's, and was a Wigan fan - his first memory is going to the 1958 Challenge Cup final against Workington.
2. He studied maths for a degree at Manchester University, then went to Liverpool to do a Masters in magnetohydrodynamics. That's the study of how liquids conduct electricity, but no, to be honest, we don't understand it either!
3. He had a career in business, running several companies including Banbury Homes, before at the age of 40 starting a company based in Milton Keynes that produced computer software to help firms manage their staff. It grew into a worldwide concern called WorkPlace Systems Ltd that now turns over more than £10m a year.
4. As well as his love of sport he's a theatre producer - his record of more than 30 West End shows includes the recent production of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
5. He's a major shareholder in Oxford United football club - and is also non-executive chairman of The Sports Café chain
http://betting.betfair.com/rugby-bet/ru ... 0911.html?
For young sports stars, the world can seem a strange place. From the moment their talent first emerges they are pampered, cosseted, cared for and generally protected from all of life's ills. The rules that apply to the mere mortals around them begin to be bent.
Can't get to training? Don't worry, somebody will be organised to give you a lift. Forgot your kit? No problem, you can borrow some. Got in a fight? Bound to have been the other lad's fault and not yours.
It all breeds a feeling of invincibility; a sense that you can do anything and get away with it. And too often clubs feed that false impression. Manchester United are still grumbling that Wayne Rooney got punished for swearing into the lens of a TV camera as he celebrated a goal at West Ham last season.
So it was good to see that Wigan's owner Ian Lenagan was strong enough to lay down the law to his starlet Sam Tomkins after Rugby League's big hope blotted his copybook during last week's Challenge Cup final at Wembley. The 22-year-old could clearly be seen flashing a V-sign at Leeds fans as he celebrated his brother Joel's brilliant dancing try on the way to a 28-18 victory.
Sam tried to pretend it hadn't happened. "Don't know what you're talking about," he said in answer to questions, even though the picture that proved it was already flashing round the world. Meanwhile his brother was blaming the Rhinos fans, who had booed the boy when he was playing for England. "People should realise what a star we've got in him . . . he deserves a bit more respect than he's getting," was his verdict. Even the authorities let him escape with a slap on the wrist. While Rooney was banned for two games for his "celebration", Tomkins got just a £1,000 fine, and even that was suspended until the end of next season.
So it was left to Wigan's owner to take a stronger stance, handing out a club fine and demanding that his player issue a public apology, before declaring the club was "ashamed" of his behaviour.
You hope that means Tomkins will have learned enough of a lesson when he inevitably gets yet another lot of stick from an opposition crowd in Sunday's top of the table Super League clash at Warrington. The best way to answer when you are booed and jeered is to score points on the pitch, and it's a fair bet that both Sam and Joel will be fired up to do exactly that. Ironically the two were both boyhood Warrington fans, but that will only add some extra spice.
It's an added twist that makes Wigan good value at odds against - currently up to 2.28 for Sunday's showdown. After a slow start to the season they are now a point clear at the top of the table. With one trophy already on the shelf from last weekend, Wigan are now 2.26 favourites to win the Grand Final too. If they do you can expect the young Tomkins to find a more appropriate celebration.
Five things you might not know about Ian Lenagan
1. Born 1946 in Scholes, part of Wigan, he played rugby league as a boy for local club St Patrick's, and was a Wigan fan - his first memory is going to the 1958 Challenge Cup final against Workington.
2. He studied maths for a degree at Manchester University, then went to Liverpool to do a Masters in magnetohydrodynamics. That's the study of how liquids conduct electricity, but no, to be honest, we don't understand it either!
3. He had a career in business, running several companies including Banbury Homes, before at the age of 40 starting a company based in Milton Keynes that produced computer software to help firms manage their staff. It grew into a worldwide concern called WorkPlace Systems Ltd that now turns over more than £10m a year.
4. As well as his love of sport he's a theatre producer - his record of more than 30 West End shows includes the recent production of "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"
5. He's a major shareholder in Oxford United football club - and is also non-executive chairman of The Sports Café chain
http://betting.betfair.com/rugby-bet/ru ... 0911.html?
Anyone can support a team when it is winning, that takes no courage.
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan
But to stand behind a team, to defend a team when it is down and really needs you,
that takes a lot of courage. #18thMan