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Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:42 pm
by morley pie eater
I live in Leeds. 3 Rhinos fans I've spoken to accept it was a bad tackle and don't specially like Ferres.
Why do we have a thread devoted to a previously unknown Leeds troll?
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:56 pm
by 5miler
3 Leeds players reported for crusher tackles in that first half. Garbutt and Ablett adjusted their positions so as not to cause harm and had no charge to answer. Ferres made no attempt to reduce the danger and made sure he landed on top of Ollie Gildart. That's the difference. You cannot defend it. Does someone have to be killed by causing harm to the neck area like Phil Hughes in cricket when he got hit by a bouncer before you can accept it's wrong? Hughes death was a wake up call in cricket. What if it happens to be Callum Watkins who gets killed or paralysed? You'd be all over it then wouldn't you? I would call you an idiot but that would be an insult to idiots.
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:00 am
by 5miler
morley pie eater wrote:I live in Leeds. 3 Rhinos fans I've spoken to accept it was a bad tackle and don't specially like Ferres.
Why do we have a thread devoted to a previously unknown Leeds troll?
. Because we've lost yet another player to long term injury and it's raw at the moment Morley pie eater. We'll be over it and talking about something else on Thursday.
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:31 am
by Toosmooth
5miler wrote:3 Leeds players reported for crusher tackles in that first half. Garbutt and Ablett adjusted their positions so as not to cause harm and had no charge to answer. Ferres made no attempt to reduce the danger and made sure he landed on top of Ollie Gildart. That's the difference. You cannot defend it. Does someone have to be killed by causing harm to the neck area like Phil Hughes in cricket when he got hit by a bouncer before you can accept it's wrong? Hughes death was a wake up call in cricket. What if it happens to be Callum Watkins who gets killed or paralysed? You'd be all over it then wouldn't you? I would call you an idiot but that would be an insult to idiots.
I haven't said it wasn't wrong. I don't believe it was deliberate and therefore think the length of ban is harsh. They wouldn't have a name for this type of tackle if it wasn't something that can regularly happen in a game without due care and attention.
Phil Hughes death was a freak accident. It's not really relevant here. If the RFL think there's a risk of someone being paralysed by a crusher tackle the referees need to be calling held earlier.
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:42 am
by shaunedwardsfanclub
Toosmooth wrote:5miler wrote:3 Leeds players reported for crusher tackles in that first half. Garbutt and Ablett adjusted their positions so as not to cause harm and had no charge to answer. Ferres made no attempt to reduce the danger and made sure he landed on top of Ollie Gildart. That's the difference. You cannot defend it. Does someone have to be killed by causing harm to the neck area like Phil Hughes in cricket when he got hit by a bouncer before you can accept it's wrong? Hughes death was a wake up call in cricket. What if it happens to be Callum Watkins who gets killed or paralysed? You'd be all over it then wouldn't you? I would call you an idiot but that would be an insult to idiots.
I haven't said it wasn't wrong. I don't believe it was deliberate and therefore think the length of ban is harsh. They wouldn't have a name for this type of tackle if it wasn't something that can regularly happen in a game without due care and attention.
Phil Hughes death was a freak accident. It's not really relevant here. If the RFL think there's a risk of someone being paralysed by a crusher tackle the referees need to be calling held earlier.
It was a deliberate act, one that the officials agree with. In my view Ferres is lucky to get away with a six match suspension. Had the roles been reversed then all the one eyed Leeds fans would have been calling for Gildart to be hung, stop trying to defend the indefensible the facts speak for themselves.
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:05 am
by lions den
Not only Leeds fans, but the whole of the rugby league !
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:25 am
by old hooker
Toosmooth wrote:Gildart was pushing up. The only way for Ferres to complete the tackle, was to push him back down. It's unfortunate Gildart got injured, but a 4 game would be harsh IMO. Ferres has had a checkered past, but he's a victim of circumstances here.
That is the biggest load of nonsense I have seen on here for a long time
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:53 am
by BriH
Toosmooth wrote:BriH wrote:Toosmooth wrote:Gildart was pushing up. The only way for Ferres to complete the tackle, was to push him back down. It's unfortunate Gildart got injured, but a 4 game would be harsh IMO. Ferres has had a checkered past, but he's a victim of circumstances here.
I was going to reply to this comment formally but that would be giving it credence.
Suffice to say that you sound like the guy who says, when he punches someone, "His head hit my fist M'lud" :doz:
First you slander a professional sportsman in Ferres as being a thug, and now I sound like...
These boards are for sharing rugby league related opinions.
BriH comments should be moderated Josie!
If my comments should be moderated then so should yours
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:58 am
by BriH
Oh, and while I'm at it "Too Smooth", Phil Clarke descibed the crusher tackle as "one of the worst he had ever seen".
Knows a lot more about these sort of injuries than I do, thank God.
Don't defend the indefensible.
Re: Gildart out for three months with 'serious back injury'!!
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 11:00 am
by BriH
And.......as a Wigan supporter, my only concern is the welfare of a fine young player by the name of Oliver Gildart.