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Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:03 pm

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:49 pm He's an odd one.

Seems to be able to make yards at will, yet just isn't fit enough.

You would have thought they would have him running through the plantations every day?

He's supposed to be an impact prop. Why does everyone want him playing for 60 minutes, that's not his role at all. Fair enough - his last few appearances have not been good as an impact prop or anything else, but against Wire he did the job he was asked to do, IMO was effective at it and that was a big step forward. More of that please. 20-25 minutes is more than enough around half time.

BTW its always struck me as odd when coaches bring on a prop after 20 mins, they play til half time and then are replaced after the break, then come back on later. Surely you save a whole substitution if you use the HT break as their rest. Maybe its just not long enough for true recovery - I'm not a physio?

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:02 pm

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:03 pm

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:49 pm He's an odd one.

Seems to be able to make yards at will, yet just isn't fit enough.

You would have thought they would have him running through the plantations every day?

He's supposed to be an impact prop. Why does everyone want him playing for 60 minutes, that's not his role at all. Fair enough - his last few appearances have not been good as an impact prop or anything else, but against Wire he did the job he was asked to do, IMO was effective at it and that was a big step forward. More of that please. 20-25 minutes is more than enough around half time.

BTW its always struck me as odd when coaches bring on a prop after 20 mins, they play til half time and then are replaced after the break, then come back on later. Surely you save a whole substitution if you use the HT break as their rest. Maybe its just not long enough for true recovery - I'm not a physio?

He's supposed to be a professional athlete.

20 mins from someone who's JOB it is to play rugby is a joke imo, and not a funny one at that.

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:02 pm

Mike wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:03 pm

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 3:49 pm He's an odd one.

Seems to be able to make yards at will, yet just isn't fit enough.

You would have thought they would have him running through the plantations every day?

He's supposed to be an impact prop. Why does everyone want him playing for 60 minutes, that's not his role at all. Fair enough - his last few appearances have not been good as an impact prop or anything else, but against Wire he did the job he was asked to do, IMO was effective at it and that was a big step forward. More of that please. 20-25 minutes is more than enough around half time.

BTW its always struck me as odd when coaches bring on a prop after 20 mins, they play til half time and then are replaced after the break, then come back on later. Surely you save a whole substitution if you use the HT break as their rest. Maybe its just not long enough for true recovery - I'm not a physio?

He's supposed to be a professional athlete.

20 mins from someone who's JOB it is to play rugby is a joke imo, and not a funny one at that.

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:44 pm Complaining Mago isnt a 60min player is like complaining Jai Field cant play prop.

The measure of success for Mago is not how many minutes he plays its what he does with the minutes he does play

Wintergreen wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:39 pm Well we'll have to agree to disagree.

20 mins for a rugby league player is laughable (imo ofc )


I understand what you are saying about his role. In that case I would be questioning the coach.

However, conceding on this and assuming it is ok to have a "20 minute impact prop", then I would expect him to be working his arris off in the gym, emphasis on anaerobic training and coming in with a lot of muscle to show the effort.

Instead he comes in with his body shape. What does he do in training then? Seemingly it's not aerobic, seemingly it's not anaerobic. I would love to know what he actually does "fitness wise".