I stand by what i said and it will come apparent in the future about O loughlins ability. He is not big enough to hold his own in a tackle, he may have attempted to tackle the players but others like Fletcher had to finish them off. Danny Orr has the best tackling technique. DV was useless in defence. He has no pace missed vital tackles and definately has no class. You have definately over rated him there. McAvoy is a better all round centre that DV could ever hope to be. Ashton was the best player out there last night.Flash posted:I don't want to get into an argument about this as I don't want it to detract from a great victory last night so I'll try to make this my last post on the subject (no promises though!Fielden's Angel posted:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Those players I have mentioned are the weakest link in our team. I personally think we have a tremondous side because we won against all odds and we won without the effort of the centres and o loughlin. Albeit it O loughlin has improved and stoppped high tackling. Hock did most of that last night, but to me he will always be a second rate rugby player and is definately not captain material. Valeleki just acted like he was confused and uncoordinated last night!
Mcavoy gave alot more effort last night and it looked like his heart was in the game!)
You say everyone is entitled to their opinion but say I know Jack Sh*t about rugby and that I only post to wind people up, so you obviously don't think I am entitled to mine. I think you meant to say everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as it agrees with yours.
As for the opinions you put forward, whilst I agree you are entitled to them when they are subjective, you are not when there is statistical evidence to support a contradicatary view. You say Hock did most of the tackling last night yet sky's stats showed Lockers to be top tackler. This is what annoys me about these biased, one-eyed posts like yours and what prompted me to post a reply in the first place. They are simply not based on fact. You simply make something up and then argue your point as though it is fact. As I've said all along, if you don't like the player I have no problem with that but please don't try to dress it up as some sort of reasoned rugby opinion justified by made up facts. It's the same with this 'at least he stopped giving away penalties' argument. He hasn't given a penalty away since the Warrington game and for the four games prior to that one was averaging 1 penalty per game. Again the facts just don't support the criticism. In fact if you would like to compare Hock's penalty count during the same period I think you would find it considerably worse.
On the subjectice appraisals you make. If you think Hock's 3 (?) penalties one of which led to their second try, silly off load on the first tackle when we were building for the drop goal and needless penalty when we had been awarded the scrum at the end of the game and which nearly cost us the match was better than a near faultless display from Lockers, I feel confident that you will find few who can actually appraise a performance on merit rather than on personal dislike who would agree. In fact I can't remember a certain mr Noble yanking Lockers off the field for his indiscretions can you?
As for DV verses McAvoy. I think McAvoy has been fairly solid, if unspectacular, for us since signing and DV has been poor but last night DV showed the touches of class that McAvoy is simply not capable of. DV scored a try, taking a difficult ball from Danny Orr in the process, his break in setting up the try for Ashton was classic centre play and he competed on level terms with both Senior and Walker. At the start of the game I thought the centres was the one area were we were obviously weaker than them but DV stood up and helped level the playing field in that area, particularly in defence. I don't think McAvoy had his best game for us, although he did go off injured so maybe that was the reason, and he was also at fault for their second try.
As for the " you know jack s**t" argument didnt you post " you are talking garbage sweetheart". You obviously didnt think I was entitled to my opinion in the first place.
