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Whelley Warrior wrote:Time that some people accepted that Maguire was a interim measure to bring Wane on.

Problem was, that he left earlier than planned as a result of a certain Mr Crowe offering him a contract he could hardly refuse.

The result being Wane given the job ahead of schedule and until something badly goes wrong, he has mine and I suspect the backing of the majority of supporters.

Anyone reading some of the negative comments on here would think that we still had Millward as Coach

WW your description of Madge as an interim measure beggars belief. IMO you are actually at odds with Wigan supporters and the Wigan Club (during healthy periods). Success is demanded like few other clubs. It is a minimum expectation. You appear blindly loyal irrespective of what happens.

CP

I did say in one of my earlier post's that changing things is ok as long as it's not just to prove he's his own man.

The other point I was trying to make is that following his first interview after being confirmed as coach it was abundantly clear things would change so anyone who is shocked they have is a bit naive.

as i said i think the jury's out and Mr Lenagan will give him the season and we'll go from there.

sheepsteeth wrote: The other point I was trying to make is that following his first interview after being confirmed as coach it was abundantly clear things would change so anyone who is shocked they have is a bit naive.

I have underlined the important bit of your post. In fact what you say above doesn't make any sense in the context of this discussion. Think about it!

None of us in favour of him being coach because we expected him to continue in the same vein as Madge continued to think he would do that after that interview. That is the point at which the reservations started!

If you search back in this forum you can probably find posts from me saying just that right after that interview and I have mentioned it several times as an example that showed Wane wasn't going to give us the continuity I expected.

So to suggest we expected continuity after that interview is just not the case so to say it was naive completely misses the point.

sheepsteeth wrote:CP

I did say in one of my earlier post's that changing things is ok as long as it's not just to prove he's his own man.

The other point I was trying to make is that following his first interview after being confirmed as coach it was abundantly clear things would change so anyone who is shocked they have is a bit naive.

as i said i think the jury's out and Mr Lenagan will give him the season and we'll go from there.

Very true. As you say doing things differently just to prove he is his own man would be ludicrous. Likewise, to disregard everything that was put in place and proved to be successful would be ludicrous.

I was happy for Wane to get the job as I expected some fine tuning and more opportunities for young players to be the end result whilst continuing to build upon the success that had commenced under Madge.

Wane IMO is a Wigan version of Gary Schofield in that he believes he can rewrite the coaching manual in search of this so called holy grail of British total RL. It never truly existed and change was brought about by fundamental rule changes. Total RL never delivers success, it entertains but falls flat under extreme pressure.

Madge was an excellent manager in the team of staff he brought to the club he's an excellent coach in how he handles and trains the players, he's a very shrewd tactician he just went off the boil with the youngsters on the 2nd season due to chasing silver before he went home.

Wane I will back and I like some of his qualities, not sure about his staff management as it hasn't changed from what Madge assembled, he obviously knows how to handle the youngsters but the more experienced ie hock COULD be questionable. For me though his weekness seems to be with tactics ie no plan B, some strange decisions worked though ie lockers 1st game at hooker when Mickey mac was banned.

Lets see what the season brings as I am optimistic that we will win some silver.

DaveO

And you are always negative no matter how well they are doing.

If you are not happy with Wane as the Coach, may I suggest you addressed your opinion to the club and not just spend time moaning about him on a website.

keptinthedarkfa​ns​ wrote:chnwh. No wonder this site is dying a death. with comments like yours. WHAT HAS SPELLING GOT TO DO WITH HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF THE GAME.Also your foul langauge is not warranted.I must be daft because I foolishly thought this site was for people to air there veiws and OWN OPINIONS. on the game.Not to be.Ridiculed over spelling in foul abusive language.I will now give my opinion.GROW UP

Good reply ,there are still one or two on here that cannot accept that we all have our own views and opinions.Swearing is just a lack of vocabulary and should be treated with the contempt it deserves

Whelley Warrior wrote:DaveO

And you are always negative no matter how well they are doing.

If you are not happy with Wane as the Coach, may I suggest you addressed your opinion to the club and not just spend time moaning about him on a website.

Why are you here, why is Dave O here, why am I here, why are anyone of us here. As you probably recall when we had a non owner CEO we had fans forums and such like.

Perhaps your beloved club/owner are at fault WW?

cpwigan

I do wonder sometimes myself!

cpwigan wrote:

sheepsteeth wrote:CP

I did say in one of my earlier post's that changing things is ok as long as it's not just to prove he's his own man.

The other point I was trying to make is that following his first interview after being confirmed as coach it was abundantly clear things would change so anyone who is shocked they have is a bit naive.

as i said i think the jury's out and Mr Lenagan will give him the season and we'll go from there.

Very true. As you say doing things differently just to prove he is his own man would be ludicrous. Likewise, to disregard everything that was put in place and proved to be successful would be ludicrous.

I was happy for Wane to get the job as I expected some fine tuning and more opportunities for young players to be the end result whilst continuing to build upon the success that had commenced under Madge.

Wane IMO is a Wigan version of Gary Schofield in that he believes he can rewrite the coaching manual in search of this so called holy grail of British total RL. It never truly existed and change was brought about by fundamental rule changes. Total RL never delivers success, it entertains but falls flat under extreme pressure.

I could not agree more, Waney's tactics ( if any ) still seam niave and like what has been said no plan B. I realise its only early in the season and we should hold our judgements till later on, but I fear we will not win anything this season. We have been unlucky with injurys upto now but thats when a good coach earns his corn with changing plays and formations to get the best out of the players he has on the field. Our best preformance up to now was against the Wire but evan in that game we looked predictable and uneventive, in the second half we put in a great defencive performance but lacked the right direction in the last quarter to win the game