Why are we persevering with this average bloke!

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shaunedwardsfan​club​ wrote:
thegimble wrote:Why Hampshire was not even in the 17 tonight is a joke. This was the game to test him and see if he could cope with it now. If Green has a donkey next week then its a big gamble to play either the following week.
Wane won't drop Green.
And rightly so IMHO.

I never, ever make knee jerk comments on the quality of the play, or player in any particular game, until I've had a chance to watch it back and analyse who does what. Without exception, I notice things that it is not possible to take in when I watch it live of the terrace. The benefit of being able to rewind the action and watch a players individual input or the teams performance in situations where you have to see where it went wrong.

Green made mistakes in the game, but he was no worse than most of the others. He threw the interception fair enough, but it was green who threw into the gap a pass that was ruled forward for thornley's disallowed try (a pass which wasn't forward); he also double pumped the defence to put thornley into a gap which saw thornley break from the half way line before failing to pass to smith; he was also the player who broke the line that lead to pat's try; his kicking game was largely ineffective, but he did kick a 40/20. He also put in a brilliant crossfield kick to find pat in lots of space.

They came with a plan to keep us in our own half, and cut out our options; a plan they really managed to execute because we let them. Leeds had very quick line speed in defence which cut down our options. We didn't, which allowed them to build an attack. In the first half they pinned us and controlled the game, but they couldn't manage to score from their own enterprise because we defended well. When the defence are running in and in your face as Leeds were, you are going to struggle to get the ball beyond first or second receiver and it will starve your outside backs of the ball. We needed to change our game plan but didn't or couldn't.

Darrel didn't come back on at half time, and almost immediately, scablett is through a hole created by his absence. The next score from Leeds was also on the same edge and was simply down to Farrel not being familiar with where he should have been. Watkins try was purely down to his enterprise, and he is a class player.

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Thanks Markill and i'm spartacus for talking sense and balancing some of the I-know-better-than-the-coach stuff on this thread.
I thought Green was looking reasonably good before his injury and has been poor since. Without overlooking his mistakes last night, he did seem to be the only only one who'd worked out an answer to the Leeds defence moving up quickly and cutting off our wings - even the intercepted pass was an, albeit poor, attempt to do this and with better execution it could have been a try to us and 10 or 12 nil at half-time.
I'm not excusing Green, and wouldn't dare claim that he's great, but can understand a coach sticking with him in non-crucial games, perhaps to try to re-build his confidence?
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cherry.pie wrote:Green was in excellent form before his injury and a few people seem to be giving him no credit for that.
Probably because before his injury we were racking up big scores against poor sides so, like the team, his form against the poor sides flattered to deceive.
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Before anybody/everybody hangs Green WATCH the Youtube Vid

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6RNSD71ME4[/youtube]

The man is a RUNNER, a LEFT INSIDE STEPPER and 99% of that is RIGHT sided. Green was bought under false pretenses and is being screwed by fans unfairly. Few players can run / play equally well on both sides of the pitch. Andy Greg had to turn his back in order to pass to one side. Even Ellery had a predominant running side!

Morley get rid of your they think they know better than coach garbage and your post is decent.

Blame Wane not Green
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It doesn't take a genius to see that Blake Geeen does have alot of Rugby ability as has already been mentioned, but he does make some schoolboy errors especially his attacking kicking near the try line. However he does look uncomfortable at times and I agree with CP that it is because he definitely is a righty not a lefty. Not many halves are both sided and the ones that are tend to be very special players. I like his attitude, endeavour, courage etc. and I might be totally wrong here but I think he will become very good for us!!
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Shame we didn't play one of the youngsters tonight :roll:
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Read my last post!!
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TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Read my last post!!
wasn't hhaving a go at you TBW, jjuust taking the pee out of the mmood over the last week or so
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Sorry Meds misunderstanding, my post wasn't aimed at you just the forum in general!!
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Why are we persevering with these average so-called supporters? This is my first post for a very long time but I am sorry to discover that the same malcontents are still peddling the same drivel. If the owner, coaches, fitness staff, tea-ladies and players are so useless then why on earth do they continue to "support" the team?
The 'usual suspects' (they and everyone else know who they are) need to take a step back and see what has been and is being achieved at this club.
IMO it is a beacon of excellence in a sport and competition which is elsewhere dying on its feet.
Get a grip and become real supporters!!!
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