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I am not jumping on a bandwagon or knee jerk reacting to the last 2 performances. From the very early days of SW tenure as coach I have had concerns about his man management skills. Defeats are always blamed on players rather than shouldering the public blame. Add to this the one dimensional play that any coach in SL worth his salt will have worked out defensive structures to counteract along with no plan B when those defensive structures do close us down. I have no doubts about his loyalty and desire for the club to be successful but loyalty and desire do not match intelligent thinking. As soon as our we reveal a certain play structure other teams will start work at closing it down so we have to start working on the next one. Stand still and everyone catches up and takes over.
We have a couple of young halves that have flair and huge amounts of talent, encourage and nourish it. Lose the predictability.
When we changed to SL we stood still and it took until Madge arrived for us to catch up again. Under SW I believe we have stood still in terms of tactics.
I have always had my doubts about SW and nothing of late is encouraging me to change my opinions.

Do you think the LLS is a "proper" trophy?

Personally I think it's worthless under the current rules.

menpond wrote:In this very important issue CP is spot on.

No surprise with that comment.

You scratch my back and I scratch yours!

Wintergreen wrote:Do you think the LLS is a "proper" trophy?

Personally I think it's worthless under the current rules.

It is only a 'proper' trophy to the team that wins it.

Wintergreen wrote:Do you think the LLS is a "proper" trophy?

Personally I think it's worthless under the current rules.

I think it is. If we all thought it was then it would be for sure. No reason to think it isn't really, it's a peice of silverware handed out to a team that has achieved something good that other teams haven't. It's kind of like saying what's the point of our Lancashire League/Cup wins once there was a full first division schedule, or the floodlit trophy wasn't really a trophy because it wasn't the Challenge Cup.

sc74 wrote:

Wintergreen wrote:Do you think the LLS is a "proper" trophy?

Personally I think it's worthless under the current rules.

It is only a 'proper' trophy to the team that wins it.

I believe the LLS winners should go straight into the GF,the top 8 should contest for the remaining place.

To win the LLS is reward for a consistent seasons rugby,it's a shame WRLFC won't win it unless this horrific loss of form/consistency is sorted.

cpwigan wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:My Dad is harder than your Dad cp!!

You obviously read nothing

Hardness / toughness and anybody who relates to sport WOMEN are generally tougher than men. My father was a so called legend, his funeral was packed outside because he was a legend His true hardness / toughness was losing his mother at 11, his true toughness was spending his last years in agony fighting death etc. More often, women deal with such things far better than men ever have, ever will.

I only care about this club because as a teenager it provided dreams, as an adult is provides family memories. If you then bother to learn about its history you understand why Wane is damaging the club he probably loves but is too arrogant and stupid to understand why.

As far as I am concerned, Wane will see me as an opinionated SOB who he would not even sully his hands with. I am an opinionated SOB! Ooh am I being personal

As I always say there is a reason why this club has built upon its legacy time and time again and it was never just about Wiganers, it was never about accepting second best and it was never about just standing still. It was about making tough calls, ask Clarke and McInnes etc etc.

It was a joke cp, nothing sinister!!

Wandering Warrior wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:My Dad is harder than your Dad cp!!

****!

Is this a personal insult?

What has this forum become?

Full of petty, childish people having slanging matches with each other to massage their own ego's. Such a shame, as it was once a good place to come to have a reasonable debate on the match, players performances and tactics etc.

4 pages of mostly drivel here and nobody even acknowledges Markhill's very reasonable response. Maybe because its to honest and reasonable?

Apologies to the people to try to use this forum in the 'right' way.

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:

Wandering Warrior wrote:

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:My Dad is harder than your Dad cp!!

****!

Is this a personal insult?

++++ knows.