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Mac came here after a blow up with Leeds IIRC. Even as a 'kid' his tackling technique was frighteningly hurtful. funniest academy brawl I ever saw was when it kicked off between everybody and Mac was looking to join in but nobody would take him up, he was running around trying get involved whilst umpteen players from both side were happily going at it hell for leather. More recently a then aspiring academy player (forward / prop size) at Wire (from Wigan) who eventually ended up in prison for assault wanted to take Mac on, Mac dropped him with one punch!

bomhead wrote:

Whelley Warrior wrote:No wonder many WIGAN supporters no longer contribute.

To suggest that recruitment of young players at Wigan has dropped in standard over the last two seasons or so is nonsense as proved by results etc and Mcllorum signed for Wigan, not because Leeds had no room for him, but because, as said by himself in a article, he wanted to get away from any possible trouble he may have got himself into, having come from one of the worse estates in Leeds.

Why some take delight in spending their time coming out with anything so silly or wrong is beyond the thinking of any true supporter.

Yes, we can all find fault with certain things at the club, but when it gets into the world of nonsense and wrong assumptions about why any player signed for Wigan, it time for a halt.

p.s. As for Wane being foul mouthed, named me a Coach who is not if something is wrong!

I am a true supporter and an honest one at that if you think are recruitment is great because we signed MM an age ago you are lying to yourself - if you want to strengthen your pointless argument you should single out John who we took form Bradford which at the time he was there most promising talent or Scott Taylor.

I could name lots of coaches world over that don't need foul language to get their point across and not the odd curse from what a parent told me of an upcoming star in the game he took his son from wigans camp because of waney. he much preferred the giants and there set up I don't think Paul Anderson goes around kicking the ground and bullying players he doesn't like!

what should a 'true supporter' like you think then?

every other SL club around us is recruiting well and keeping hold of there home grown talent and taking ours this is the facts

How many of our current squad came through our youth system?

TrueBlueWarrior wrote:

bomhead wrote:

Whelley Warrior wrote:No wonder many WIGAN supporters no longer contribute.

To suggest that recruitment of young players at Wigan has dropped in standard over the last two seasons or so is nonsense as proved by results etc and Mcllorum signed for Wigan, not because Leeds had no room for him, but because, as said by himself in a article, he wanted to get away from any possible trouble he may have got himself into, having come from one of the worse estates in Leeds.

Why some take delight in spending their time coming out with anything so silly or wrong is beyond the thinking of any true supporter.

Yes, we can all find fault with certain things at the club, but when it gets into the world of nonsense and wrong assumptions about why any player signed for Wigan, it time for a halt.

p.s. As for Wane being foul mouthed, named me a Coach who is not if something is wrong!

I am a true supporter and an honest one at that if you think are recruitment is great because we signed MM an age ago you are lying to yourself - if you want to strengthen your pointless argument you should single out John who we took form Bradford which at the time he was there most promising talent or Scott Taylor.

I could name lots of coaches world over that don't need foul language to get their point across and not the odd curse from what a parent told me of an upcoming star in the game he took his son from wigans camp because of waney. he much preferred the giants and there set up I don't think Paul Anderson goes around kicking the ground and bullying players he doesn't like!

what should a 'true supporter' like you think then?

every other SL club around us is recruiting well and keeping hold of there home grown talent and taking ours this is the facts

How many of our current squad came through our youth system?

Exactly, around ten but try telling it to those who think otherwise.

p.s. and by true supporter, I meant anyone who is a supporter of Wigan Warriors and not a supporter of another club or a football club coming on the website just to to wind us up.

Its not rocket science!

We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

markill wrote:We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

You are right that we are not recruiting well but it only applies to outside signings from outside the club and not from junior level as being suggested.

Yes, Leeds do find good players from within the club, but they are no different than Wigan or indeed St Helens with many good players ending up at other clubs.

And I do wish some would make their minds up about our own produced good young players leaving the club. Some accusing the club for making no effort to keep them and others saying you can't blame them for going for more money in Union and the NRL which Wigan cannot do with the meagre salary cap in our game.

markill wrote:We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

its just what I have heard having talked to a friend who's son went to a few clubs - that the whole youth set up at Wigan is poor at the moment since and has been on the demise.

and as for WW I don't care if you are talking to latics fans or st fans or whoever you shouldn't go branding round 'true supporter' it's not up to you to judge!

I know Wane doesn't control the money but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would stand for poor signings either?

bomhead wrote:

markill wrote:We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

its just what I have heard having talked to a friend who's son went to a few clubs - that the whole youth set up at Wigan is poor at the moment since and has been on the demise.

and as for WW I don't care if you are talking to latics fans or st fans or whoever you shouldn't go branding round 'true supporter' it's not up to you to judge!

I know Wane doesn't control the money but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would stand for poor signings either?

It seems to me strange that someone has said this because a die hard Saints supporting family's son chose Wigan over others including his own club because the set up & training was far superior than any other. That player is Josh Ganson, the son of Steve Ganson!!

Perhaps it may be sour grapes that Wigan didn't think he was suitable, it does & has happened in the past.

bomhead wrote:

markill wrote:We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

its just what I have heard having talked to a friend who's son went to a few clubs - that the whole youth set up at Wigan is poor at the moment since and has been on the demise.

and as for WW I don't care if you are talking to latics fans or st fans or whoever you shouldn't go branding round 'true supporter' it's not up to you to judge!

I know Wane doesn't control the money but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would stand for poor signings either?

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A friend, by any chance whose son has been deemed not good enough and is bitter about it.

I ask the question as I know a young lad who has been deemed not good enough at another club and he and his father also has said the same thing about that club and no doubt many others over the seasons have said the same about other clubs as well as Wigan.

bomhead wrote:

markill wrote:We're not recruiting well but we signed Bateman and we're bringing back one of the best players we've had in Super League era. We're not retaining our young stars but we have the likes of Williams and Sutton on long term deals.

Not saying there aren't people who don't like Wane's style but your argument around recruitment and retention isn't that coherent bomhead. I'm pretty sure too that he doesn't have loads of input on contracts from everything you read our hear and we all know coaches don't last forever. Players making long term choices on current coaching staff alone would be foolish.

its just what I have heard having talked to a friend who's son went to a few clubs - that the whole youth set up at Wigan is poor at the moment since and has been on the demise.

and as for WW I don't care if you are talking to latics fans or st fans or whoever you shouldn't go branding round 'true supporter' it's not up to you to judge!

I know Wane doesn't control the money but he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would stand for poor signings either?

Did Wigan not want his son by any chance?

"I have read this post and I agree with all - I do believe we are not using larne to his strengths but that is just my opinion (I don't think the giants do either). I know we can't keep every home grown wigan lad at the club but surely we should take the best - look at dwyer for the wire lads who I know from ince played with him for years and said he wanted to play for wigan but nothing came of it now he is a star at warrington - I also have heard recently that youngsters from wigan are going to other superleague clubs because the set up at wigan youth is lacking - waney has a foul mouth and is very aggressive and Jordan James doesn't have a clue. this is just what I have heard - can anyone shed any light on why our club is falling down in recruitment"

this was my original post I was only trying to point out that a lot of our home grown lads are slipping through the net if you ask me from people I talk to and - the friend I speak about was desired by a few clubs as was his friend they are both from Cumbria - one went to stains and the other to the giants(my friend to the giants)a lot of people on here think that I am having a go at the club I am just making an observation of something that needs addressing in my opinion