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Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:11 pm
by old hooker
moto748 wrote:Perspective, here: that 'stinker' that Gale had in the GF, that's about how Tommy has been playing all season.
Please dont compare Tommy with Gale, Tommy is a world cup winner that has been a NZ regular for 10 years.He is also a GF winner and Challenge cup winner.He has also played successfully in the NRL.Gale has played most of his career in the Championship or with SL teams in the bottom half of SL.He has a LLS under his belt which lets face it means nothing.After his performances in the World cup proves he is second rate.Will he get as many England caps as Tommy has for NZ?I will let you answer that.
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:31 pm
by ian b
old hooker wrote:moto748 wrote:Perspective, here: that 'stinker' that Gale had in the GF, that's about how Tommy has been playing all season.
Please dont compare Tommy with Gale, Tommy is a world cup winner that has been a NZ regular for 10 years.He is also a GF winner and Challenge cup winner.He has also played successfully in the NRL.Gale has played most of his career in the Championship or with SL teams in the bottom half of SL.He has a LLS under his belt which lets face it means nothing.After his performances in the World cup proves he is second rate.Will he get as many England caps as Tommy has for NZ?I will let you answer that.
well put
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 10:34 pm
by fozzieskem
I won't take anything away from Tommy's past but lets be brutally honest his form last season simply didn't warrant his place in the side, the "dream" team of him and Williams came to nought I do wish just once, when it was as plain as the nose on everyones faces it wasn't working, Tommy couldn't have had a go a hooker,clearly his best position but not it hasn't worked last week but will this week theory was in full force for most of the season.
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 9:35 am
by TrueBlueWarrior
old hooker wrote:moto748 wrote:Perspective, here: that 'stinker' that Gale had in the GF, that's about how Tommy has been playing all season.
Please dont compare Tommy with Gale, Tommy is a world cup winner that has been a NZ regular for 10 years.He is also a GF winner and Challenge cup winner.He has also played successfully in the NRL.Gale has played most of his career in the Championship or with SL teams in the bottom half of SL.He has a LLS under his belt which lets face it means nothing.After his performances in the World cup proves he is second rate.Will he get as many England caps as Tommy has for NZ?I will let you answer that.
Well said!
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:26 pm
by ddtftf
Micky Mack looked a different player under the guidance of a new coach, far better than he has played at Wigan mmmmm
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:31 pm
by ddtftf
When George Williams came in he was uninhibited and took the line on when he saw an opening, over the last year he has been playing to a game plan, and slowly had the off the cuff game knocked out of him . Could it be the coaching plan, or lack of one. mmmmm
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:42 pm
by Wes
Have to agree with both posts ddtftf.
Any news on MM as assistant or which 2 players we are after?
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 10:40 pm
by moto748
fozzieskem wrote:I won't take anything away from Tommy's past but lets be brutally honest his form last season simply didn't warrant his place in the side, the "dream" team of him and Williams came to nought I do wish just once, when it was as plain as the nose on everyones faces it wasn't working, Tommy couldn't have had a go a hooker,clearly his best position but not it hasn't worked last week but will this week theory was in full force for most of the season.
Exactly. TL has been a successful dummy-half, probably still is, but if you asked supporters of any other SL club apart from Wigan and Cas, given a choice, would you have Gale or Tommy, do you really think anyone would say Tommy?
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 12:49 pm
by markill
TrueBlueWarrior wrote:old hooker wrote:moto748 wrote:Perspective, here: that 'stinker' that Gale had in the GF, that's about how Tommy has been playing all season.
Please dont compare Tommy with Gale, Tommy is a world cup winner that has been a NZ regular for 10 years.He is also a GF winner and Challenge cup winner.He has also played successfully in the NRL.Gale has played most of his career in the Championship or with SL teams in the bottom half of SL.He has a LLS under his belt which lets face it means nothing.After his performances in the World cup proves he is second rate.Will he get as many England caps as Tommy has for NZ?I will let you answer that.
Well said!
It's fair to say that to this point Tommy has had a better career than Gale - who played 2 years at Doncaster when he was 18/19, then much of his career at London/Bradford, before the last 3 really good years at Cas that he's had.
However, it's also fair to say that Man of Steel Gale had a much better 2017 than Tommy.
The two things don't prevent the other from being true, people should recognise that.
(Incidentally, Tommy is exactly 3 years older than Gale I've just seen, so hypothetically, what if in the next 3 years Gale wins a double next year, then goes and plays NRL as a regular start for a year or two. Who then has had the better career? Tommy or Gale?)
Re: Luke Gale?
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:35 pm
by TrueBlueWarrior
markill wrote:TrueBlueWarrior wrote:old hooker wrote:
Please dont compare Tommy with Gale, Tommy is a world cup winner that has been a NZ regular for 10 years.He is also a GF winner and Challenge cup winner.He has also played successfully in the NRL.Gale has played most of his career in the Championship or with SL teams in the bottom half of SL.He has a LLS under his belt which lets face it means nothing.After his performances in the World cup proves he is second rate.Will he get as many England caps as Tommy has for NZ?I will let you answer that.
Well said!
It's fair to say that to this point Tommy has had a better career than Gale - who played 2 years at Doncaster when he was 18/19, then much of his career at London/Bradford, before the last 3 really good years at Cas that he's had.
However, it's also fair to say that Man of Steel Gale had a much better 2017 than Tommy.
The two things don't prevent the other from being true, people should recognise that.
(Incidentally, Tommy is exactly 3 years older than Gale I've just seen, so hypothetically, what if in the next 3 years Gale wins a double next year, then goes and plays NRL as a regular start for a year or two. Who then has had the better career? Tommy or Gale?)
What if I do? I have just as much chance after his recent performances!