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Flash wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:41 pm

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:08 pm

Flash wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:30 pm

No one is saying he couldn't play or defend! Why do you keep posting what he did for Australia or SOO as if that impacts on what he did for Wigan? I'm sure he never threw a game for Australia or The Blues either but he certainly did for Wigan! There have been so many players in the British game who did this or that in the NRL or at international level who were simply awful over here. Some unbelievably so! You can't argue "well they were good in Australia so it proves they were good over here". That's just ridiculous.

And before you say it ..no, I'm not saying Kenny was awful over here. He was, for the most part, brilliant. However, he was awful post Wembley. That's simply a fact and something that he took tremendous stick for at the time. In the context of this thread, that's something that needs to be taken into consideration.

Quite simply because the question put was, 'Is he up there for the best Australian we’ve ever brought over to the club' It doesn't say which Australian player played best for Wigan or which Australian played well in more than one position, consequently I have given my opinion on who I think is the greatest Australian who has pulled the cherry and white shirt on. Brett Kenny, in my view, is one of the all time greats. Bevan has been absolutely fantastic for Wigan but his rugby career is not comparable with Kenny.

I think you're being pedantic there Chariots. If you're simply saying the 'best Australian' then he doesn't need to be a player and that would then be John Monie, so you're still wrong In fact, if you're saying best Australian it doesn't even need to have anything to do with ability because "best" could mean "nicest person" or any other measure you care to apply.

"Best for Wigan" was implied in the statement otherwise it has no point of reference.

medlocke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:20 pm

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:08 pm

Flash wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:30 pm

No one is saying he couldn't play or defend! Why do you keep posting what he did for Australia or SOO as if that impacts on what he did for Wigan? I'm sure he never threw a game for Australia or The Blues either but he certainly did for Wigan! There have been so many players in the British game who did this or that in the NRL or at international level who were simply awful over here. Some unbelievably so! You can't argue "well they were good in Australia so it proves they were good over here". That's just ridiculous.

And before you say it ..no, I'm not saying Kenny was awful over here. He was, for the most part, brilliant. However, he was awful post Wembley. That's simply a fact and something that he took tremendous stick for at the time. In the context of this thread, that's something that needs to be taken into consideration.

Quite simply because the question put was, 'Is he up there for the best Australian we’ve ever brought over to the club' It doesn't say which Australian player played best for Wigan or which Australian played well in more than one position, consequently I have given my opinion on who I think is the greatest Australian who has pulled the cherry and white shirt on. Brett Kenny, in my view, is one of the all time greats. Bevan has been absolutely fantastic for Wigan but his rugby career is not comparable with Kenny.

But Kenny's career outside of Wigan shouldn't have anything to do with the best Aussie at Wigan, the fact he spent so little time at Wigan for says he is not the best, While at Wigan did Kenny win as many trophies and accolades as Bevan, the answer is no, therefore Bevan is the greatest, being a persons favourite player does not make him the greatest. Ang katapusan

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 8:45 pm

medlocke wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:20 pm

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:08 pm

Quite simply because the question put was, 'Is he up there for the best Australian we’ve ever brought over to the club' It doesn't say which Australian player played best for Wigan or which Australian played well in more than one position, consequently I have given my opinion on who I think is the greatest Australian who has pulled the cherry and white shirt on. Brett Kenny, in my view, is one of the all time greats. Bevan has been absolutely fantastic for Wigan but his rugby career is not comparable with Kenny.

But Kenny's career outside of Wigan shouldn't have anything to do with the best Aussie at Wigan, the fact he spent so little time at Wigan for says he is not the best, While at Wigan did Kenny win as many trophies and accolades as Bevan, the answer is no, therefore Bevan is the greatest, being a persons favourite player does not make him the greatest. Ang katapusan

He's not my favourite Meds, I am judging this on ability.

moto748 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:38 am Still, we're lucky to be having this conversation.

Firestarter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:48 am George carmont was a decent one

Firestarter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:48 am George carmont was a decent one

Nezza Faz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:41 am

Firestarter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:48 am George carmont was a decent one

Talking centres, Gene Miles was fairly handy.
Probably responsible for enhancing Offiah’s career somewhat ?

medlocke wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:24 am

Firestarter wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:48 am George carmont was a decent one

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