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He must have looked after himself fitness wise, he was hardly blowing when he was subbed.jaws1 wrote:Impressed with Ben Cross tonight had a good game for me .
mickw think you need to read posts carefully before you reply:-mickw wrote:well if it takes cross as lomg as it took lima to settle then the season will be over FACT,and if you would rather block the path of a young home grown player in favour of a bloke who has NO future with us then you must be quite happy for us never to challange the aussies again.as for cross`s recent history being irrelevant well i find that ridiculous.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:Sorry mickw but I think that is a ridiculous post and totally lacking any substance or evidence.mickw wrote:given what cross has done lately and how long lima has taken to settle it just seems like jobs for the boys,i hope i`m wrong, but with madge gone at the end of the year i don`t suppose he cares if he upsets anyone.
Lima is playing really well at the moment and contributing consistently.
Cross irrelevant of his very recent history is SOO and proven NRL player.
'Jobs for the boy's' well yes they are men who I am sure will do a good job for us.
Finally, Madge Certainly has not upset me or probably most if not all other fans, in terms of the players who knows who is happy and who is not, if your playing you will be happy, if not you wont, that is sport that is life. It seems to me the lads have a great spirit no matter who plays and the person to thank for that is MM. In a nutshell I think we have a happy camp and will remain to do so, with
MM DOING EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO KEEP IT THAT WAY!!
I too think Ben has settled in very quickly. Very impressed, keep it upTrueBlueWarrior wrote:
Finally judging by tonights game think Cross has settled for quicker than Lima, good news eh?
mickw was you by any chance drinking pints of 'BITTER' in the south stand bar tonight?mickw wrote:as a season ticket holder in the south stand i go to every game,i take it your refering to cross`s performance tonight which i thought was steady for a first game,not sure what the message is to those young scholarship lads we paraded before kick off though,maybe its do well get in the U20`s work hard for a chance then get blocked out by a 30+ short term aussie signing!AdamMac wrote:Take it you didn't go the game tonight then?mickw wrote:well if it takes cross as lomg as it took lima to settle then the season will be over FACT,and if you would rather block the path of a young home grown player in favour of a bloke who has NO future with us then you must be quite happy for us never to challange the aussies again.as for cross`s recent history being irrelevant well i find that ridiculous.
I was not suggesting you had been drinking it was a play on the word 'BITTER' which you obviously didn't appreciate, sorry for that!mickw wrote:this kind of short term thinking really has stood GB in great stead over the last forty years.as for youngsters being good enough for wigan well we`ll never find out.where`s the merit in winning trophies with players on such short contracts comming in at this stage of the season,if thats what you mean by (whatever it takes)then i don`t agree with it.TrueBlueWarrior wrote:mickw think you need to read posts carefully before you reply:-mickw wrote:well if it takes cross as lomg as it took lima to settle then the season will be over FACT,and if you would rather block the path of a young home grown player in favour of a bloke who has NO future with us then you must be quite happy for us never to challange the aussies again.as for cross`s recent history being irrelevant well i find that ridiculous.
I said 'Cross irrelevant of his very recent history is SOO and proven NRL player.'
You replied 'as for cross`s recent history being irrelevant well i find that ridiculous.'
Do you need my quote explaining further before you understand it?
And the posts above quite clearly show why MM signed Cross because as a very very very good coach he believed that the youngsters in the squad like Ben Davies are simply not good enough at this moment in time to help Wigan win another League, GF and CC. Yes we all want to see great youngsters coming through at Wigan that are firstly good enough for Wigan and then the international stage and we have many at the moment, but ultimately at this moment Wigan are challenging for 3 major trophies and MM as a true professional will do whatever it takes to win them, like signing Ben Cross.
Finally judging by tonights game think Cross has settled for quicker than Lima, good news eh?
I do not understand your logic mickw because if Cross was here for another year that would block a youngster probably for another whole season, whereas at this moment he is just a short term option till the end of the year opening the door for youngsters at the end of the season providing THEY ARE SIMPLY GOOD ENOUGH FOR WIGAN FIRST TEAM.mickw wrote:if cross was here next year then ok fair enough no problem ,but he is`nt and if wire or leeds or saints did it i would`nt agree with it either,yes i`m a wigan fan but that does`nt mean i agree with everything the club do.