Sam Burgess to Union

[Wigan_forever1985]

Is there a trend starting where Big RL stars are switching back and forth between the codes because of lack of stars in there respective games and obviously with RU WC fast approaching then SBW and Burgess are huge draw cards ?

Its certainly a tactic that Sonny Bill has employed but I think he is the exception rather than the rule I think its mostly one way traffic out of our game atm

I think the other question that needs to be asked here is are we looking at the bigger picture. Losing players like Sam Burgess loses the game exposure, and furthermore has the potential to impact gate receipts for not only the clubs but the international game.

Our international game is an absolute joke, made more so by the fact that teams like outside of England, New Zealand and Australia are just made up of players that couldn't get in those squads.

Personally what I would do away with the world cup, and replace it with 4 nations comp every 2 or 4 years.

When it wasn't the 4 nations id have the world super club challenge 4 best from UK against 4 best from Oz in a knockout comp.

I know many will disagree but I feel the international game here is like flogging a dead horse, the 4 nations works because it is more competitive, GB needs to be reinstated and the super club challenge would offer and alternative goal for someone's career

Another option is what about 4 way state of origin, Lancashire, Yorkshire, NSW, Queensland?

[Kaii]

The last World Cup was amazingly successful, the improved sky deal came on the back of that

[DaveO]

The last World Cup was amazingly successful, the improved sky deal came on the back of that

Hope you see the irony with what you posted there

Amazingly successful = £600K per SL club as of 2016. Undersold.

[DaveO]

The last World Cup was amazingly successful, the improved sky deal came on the back of that

Hope you see the irony with what you posted there

Amazingly successful = £600K per SL club as of 2016. Undersold.

As to Burgess as sponsorship doesn't count on an NRL's players a salary cap value they could, if they wanted, pay him what they liked.

Perhaps the NRL has no wish to go down this road but it is a bit short sighted IMO. They could make it financially prohibitive for even the RFU but chose to grab the cash off bath and sod the bad PR.

[Kaii]

I've heared £2m per sl club each season which is a big difference from your 600k

[DaveO]

I've heared £2m per sl club each season which is a big difference from your 600k

It is nowhere near it.

The details are here:

http://www.totalrl.com/web/ins-outs-sup ... w-tv-deal/

Clubs currently get £1.2m off Sky so they are getting an extra £625K (sorry not £600K as I said above).

As I said, such a successful World Cup and it gives our SL clubs an extra £625K is under selling the game.

[slimshady]

Its sad that Burgess has decided to take the money but he will be just like SBW and will be back and forth as it suits. He's got the chance to make an absolute fortune from Rugby of either code and no doubt his agents are only too willing to advise and tout him around to their mutual benefit. He wont be the last either, no doubt plenty of players agents are sounding out their chances of a switch in time for the union world cup.
I dont think he will be any great shakes in union, not because he isnt good enough but due to England RU not being able to get the best out of him because they arent that good. Now if union want to throw their money around trying to sign players on large contracts let them. The more money they waste the better, hopefully he will realise he's made a big mistake after a couple of months because week in week out club rugby is dire and our domestic international game isnt much better
RL players dont do very well at union, aside from Jason Robinson winning the world cup I cant think of any others setting the world alight. Even SBW doesnt get much of a chance with the Allblacks often coming off the bench.
It probably doesnt do RL any favours him switching codes but obviously the money is the factor despite what he may say it all boils down to the ££££££££££££££££££££££.

[Mike]

I've heared £2m per sl club each season which is a big difference from your 600k

It is nowhere near it.

The details are here:

http://www.totalrl.com/web/ins-outs-sup ... w-tv-deal/

Clubs currently get £1.2m off Sky so they are getting an extra £625K (sorry not £600K as I said above).

As I said, such a successful World Cup and it gives our SL clubs an extra £625K is under selling the game.

SO 1.2 + .625 = 1.825. Which is probably the £2M figure after some media rounding. Certainly covers the whole salary cap, so everyone should be up to the cap and use their other income to support the stadia and support staff?

[Owd Codger]

I've heared £2m per sl club each season which is a big difference from your 600k

It is nowhere near it.

The details are here:

http://www.totalrl.com/web/ins-outs-sup ... w-tv-deal/

Clubs currently get £1.2m off Sky so they are getting an extra £625K (sorry not £600K as I said above).

As I said, such a successful World Cup and it gives our SL clubs an extra £625K is under selling the game.

SO 1.2 + .625 = 1.825. Which is probably the £2M figure after some media rounding. Certainly covers the whole salary cap, so everyone should be up to the cap and use their other income to support the stadia and support staff?

Money from the deal also goes to the game at all levels and not just the Super League club's.

It is also easy for some to have a go at those who negotiated the deal when they know that they would never be in a position to negotiate anything better.

[DaveO]

I've heared £2m per sl club each season which is a big difference from your 600k

It is nowhere near it.

The details are here:

http://www.totalrl.com/web/ins-outs-sup ... w-tv-deal/

Clubs currently get £1.2m off Sky so they are getting an extra £625K (sorry not £600K as I said above).

As I said, such a successful World Cup and it gives our SL clubs an extra £625K is under selling the game.

SO 1.2 + .625 = 1.825. Which is probably the £2M figure after some media rounding. Certainly covers the whole salary cap, so everyone should be up to the cap and use their other income to support the stadia and support staff?

It still represent paltry increase of £625K per SL clubs as of 2016.

What it boils down to is the game has decided to impose a financial limit on itself in order the likes of Wakefield can survive and Leigh can catch up.

The effect of this is to cut off access to the worlds best players.

It means we can forget signing star players or preventing the likes of a Burgess or a Sam leaving SL. A £1.825m cap is too low.

Divide the £40m a year 12 ways and we would have had a cap of £3.33m based on that alone. If we made the cap £4m (not unreasonable) that would put us exactly on a par with where the NRL will be in 2016.

Instead the game has chosen to cut off access to the worlds best players.