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standishcat posted:

And, of course, that would be another of Betts' poor substitutions, despite the fact that Terry was in Disneyland.

Sorry, I know I don't know as much as others on here and probably seem stupid when I post, but I get disheartened whenever he goes off, I just think he's great lol. You're right though, would rather take him off than have him carry on playing concussed/dazed whatever. Sorry, I'm not a good judge of substitutions.

You have your opinions and you stick by them until you feel you have been proved wrong.

We're all fans on here and know nothing ourselves apart from our opinions. We have the forum to dictate tactics to highly decorated GB stars, make the most of it!

Keep posting we all have valid view points.

Lol thanks, doveoverdave. My problem is I should be in bed now lol!

We haven't tackled man and ball for the last few seasons, it's a reoccuring thing I say in every match. If I can see why can they not? I'm not sure of what Betts has said tonight, is he being professional in what he has said about certain individuals not performing or is it an excuse I really don't know. Instead of falling out, we need the situation sorted and soon. This is not right, we don't go from Challenge cup finalists and GF semi finalists to being 8th in the table by Sunday.

And yes Ian, you are my favourite Ian after tonight. He always seemed to be looking the other way when they were lying on and slowing us down and before people jump on my back I am not, and have not blamed him for the loss.

MrsLam posted:

And yes Ian, you are my favourite Ian after tonight. He always seemed to be looking the other way when they were lying on and slowing us down and before people jump on my back I am not, and have not blamed him for the loss.

:inlo: :inlo:

GeoffN jealous as all get out. :baaa:

D o D No experience? first team coach next year at the rah rah grand final winners not count?

No

Did you not see the eppy he threw on the touchline last saturday when leicester scored their only try of the game after 78 minutes when it could have no bearing on Wasps winning the final.

Yes I did. These hysterics mean what exactly?

Total and absolute commitment, no Wigan player would dare to play like they played in the second half because they simply would not play for Wigan again.

Absolute garbage he would have to pay with the inherited squad.

Joe Worsley who said Edwards biggest strength was his ability to get EVERY player playing to the absolute limit of his own personal ability whether that player was an England international like Worsley or a 3rd teamer,

Effectively Edwards is Worsley's boss as he has influence over team selection. These comments are worthless as evidence.

The RU is strewn with ex-RL men at the moment. Where has the influence of RU coaches benefitted SL teams over the last decade?

ian.birchall posted:

MrsLam posted:

And yes Ian, you are my favourite Ian after tonight. He always seemed to be looking the other way when they were lying on and slowing us down and before people jump on my back I am not, and have not blamed him for the loss.

:inlo: :inlo:

GeoffN jealous as all get out. :baaa:

But I'm not an Ian! Well done for being ahead of Millward in the queue, though!

And happy 2k2u MrsLam! (that's as near to txtspk as I'm going to get.)

how long do the cureent level of performances have to go on before something is done 1,2,3 weeks if this is the case we could have lost upto 11 games and this will be a total disaster and we will be well outside the 6 and very close to the dreaded 2

MrsLam posted:
I'm not sure of what Betts has said tonight, is he being professional in what he has said about certain individuals not performing or is it an excuse I really don't know.

I think when a coach says things like that things can go one of two ways. The players can accept their responsibilites and the critisism. Take it on the chin and buckle down.

The requires the coach to have the strength to get them to do that. They have to be prepared to take this sort of slagging off from the coach.

The other way it can go is to result in a complete breakdown of the player coach/relationship and the players simply won't play for him anymore.

It doesn't mean they are right to do that by any means but that is what can happen.

It happened with John Dorahay. The players ignored him (according to Shaun Edwards) for the last three months of his time here. They coached themselves.

Of course that team was so good they could coach themsekves. Our shower are not up to doing that.

Dave

Thankyou very much! I'll be celebrating by sleeping this pain off and then having a few too many tomorrow night, you're all welcome to join me...well not literally, I think my bf might object to a full house!

People questioned whether there were problems at bradford at the beginning of the season, betts saying hes telling the players what to do and they arent doing it says to me that there is trouble in our dressing room. Betts slagging the players off to the press last night was a bad thing to do in my opinion, just imagine what hes saying to them behind close doors. At this rate we're going to have to run in 40points in the first half to have a chance of staying in the game.