Points Reduction!!!

[Fraggle]

Flash posted:
Unfortunately it could als be because the others were merely slap on the wrists or fines for which they have leave of appeal whereas ours and Bradford are points deductions for which we need to put our case forward before a judgement is reached. I do hope not, but....

I think all punishments for salary cap infringement come with the right of appeal (I'll have to try and find the document I got about all this from the RFL accountant last year). In addition, I would expect Saints, Hull and Wakefield, if anyone, to have received hearings because they are not first-time offenders.

When Saints were deducted points, that was done with immediate effect, there was no hearing beforehand but they had the right to appeal. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 946556.stm. If things are different now then we're looking at the old "one rule for Wigan {and Bradford}, one rule for everyone else" but not quite in the way everyone accuses us of.

And the date of that article is 29 May 2003, so Geoff is correct that it was much earlier in the season. I wonder why it was so much later this year?

[Fraggle]

Fraggle posted:
And the date of that article is 29 May 2003, so Geoff is correct that it was much earlier in the season. I wonder why it was so much later this year?

And to add to that, when Wakefield became the first team to lose points back in 2001, that was also earlier in the season: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 482690.stm. Their appeal, where the penalty was cut from 4 points to 2, was heard by the 9th August, meaning the original decision had still been made before now.

[mike binder]

FROM A TO B posted:
The question is, if we are found guilty, will the RFL do anything about it?
Saints guilty again and just get a poxy fine.
The RFL would not want Wigan out of the SL, as they cannot afford it.

Apart from that, why has the club not put anything on the official site? I know the hearing is today, but after all the speil they've given about loyal supporters this year, do we not deserve some sort of explaination? Obviously they cannot jeopordise the hearing, but they couls at least acknowledge the fact!

if the club have broke the rules they deserve the punishment as some 1 as said b4

[mike binder]

the 2 guys that joinsed our board from the latics board arent they solicitors ,now we know why they have joined us maybe wigan have asked for an hearibg here with all the silver tongues involved

[Fraggle]

wgnwrs posted:
This is all we need, fighting relegation all year and as soon as we have our heads above water the RFL come and hit us with this.

Although as Mike Binder says, if (and it is still "if") we have committed any offence, then we've got to take the punishment. And then beat up our Chairman with it. If we've broken the rules then it's our own fault, not the RFL's fault.

[ste lord]

True

we should be acountable for our misstakes (if we have made any)

if we have then beat MO up in the center of town

The hearing has only just started at 1700,that has come from i friend i know who works for the warriors,

[ste lord]

how long do these thing normaly take to reach a decision,

:eh: :eh:

[mike binder]

and then give us all our season ticket money back thank us for our help ,but say the board cocked it up and we cant do anything b4 we take him hang him draw him and 3 quarter him ,or what ever they used to do to criminals.Heads will have to role if we lose pts but lets save our judgement till its all confirmed,he may get us out of it yet with his silver tongue and mr whelans money :doz:

[mike binder]

ste lord posted:
how long do these thing normaly take to reach a decision,

:eh: :eh:

this will end up in court ,and take months dont think the old farts at the rfl head quarters will make a desicin today ,until they have seen wigans case and spoken to there own solicitors to see if they are liable and if we have a case in the european court of law ,charging the rfl with restraint of trade

[willie c]

the others were stains and hull who have been fined 5k each part of it suspened cas and wakefield who have been given formal warnings and have to pay costs