Re: All Credit To Brian Noble

[ian b]

Its getting abit tetchy on here isnt it cor Its like handbags at 12 paces.

Heres my view, not that anybody gives a rats ass, but anyway.

Start of the season we were poor, not as bad as some, but poor all the same "Not Wigan standard" is the term i would use amongst fans that are used to seeing a different style of coaching.

We were then up and down midway through the season again sometimes playing decent stuff but in some eyes "Not Wigan Standard" other games toilet, Catalans away springs to mind.

A few players get injured, a player drags the name of Wigan RL into the gutter, all of a sudden we are beating sides with commitment,determination,agression and skill both from Nobles tactics and coaching and our players playing like we all expect.

Everbody associated with the management of the club and also the playing staff alike are responsible for the crap dished up this season, not an individual or a collective of people. Everybody is now singing off the same song sheet, a bond like ive not seen at this club for along time has emerged, if anybody cared to reas Kris Rads book will read the part about egos, its fair to say the egos at this club have taking a massive hammering.

Its taken something big and nasty to transform this club, how long it will last is up to both BN and the players. Credit is due to everybody, not an individual or a group of players. Coaches get it wrong from time to time just because we can see it doesnt meen to say BN does, players have a resurgence in a time of togetherness otherwise they become stale and uninterested no matter what motivational skills you have. The right blend of players and there attitudes is also key to a great side despite skill and strength. Saints and Leeds dont have World class players the World Cup saw that, its there bond as a team that makes them difficult to beat.

Over all i say keep the togetherness and bond going as players and give B.N another 2 years and see what this brings us. I bet we win something.

:thum:

why not give him the freedom of the town as well








:eusa9: :eusa17: :eusa7:

great idea :eusa2:

[Panchitta Marra]

Brian Noble is the most successful coach in superleague and with that in mind the optimist in me says he can make wigan great again.No one can seriously believe he is solely responsible for how bad we have been.The stains team took years to make and when they found the right balance they were virtualy unstoppable.I get as frustrated as anybody on here but i feel we have changed coaches to readily in the past and i dont think that helps any team.

Maybe a change of coach at this time of the season is not a good thing.
My concern is that Noble inherited an extremely successful team from Brian Smith & Mathew Elliot.
He just continued on with their success, having the best of players to choose from.
He wasnt blessed with that calibre of team when he came to Wigan, and to me it shows.
Some of his team selections have been strange to say the least, especially earlier on in the season.
A genuine coach would not pick his buddies ahead of better performing players, or suddenly change his team selections just because senior players spit the dummy out at not being picked.
Success of a club is deemed on the silverware the team collects.
As yet, we have none under Noble.
Lets hope it all changes by the season end.
I am still on the fence.

The last 2 or 3 coaches have only had to tweek what is a well oiled engine at stains (as much as i hate to say it !!)and yes Noble was in the same position at Bradford,but i still believe the problems have been more deep rooted and blaming the coach i think is out of order.The team selections have been odd at times but maybe you have to tinker about to find the right balance?.

Please understand, I am not having a go at you, but when Wigan were in a better position for choice of player selection earlier in the season, plus lots of time to get the squad realistically fit, Wigan were at the bottom end of the table. This is normal as of Nobles conditioning methodology.
Teams like Wakefild, Castleford & dare I say Huddersfield should all be well acheivable home wins. The way Hull FC were performing should have been an away win at the KC stadium.
It is only now that the team appears to be picking up (with a lot of forced changes), however weeks too late to be in a top 2 position.
For me, much of the blame lies with Brian Noble for
1. His conditioning, as we have all been witness to how unfit the team has looked for large parts of the season.
2. Team selection has been woeful at times.
Personally I would be finding the best way to get Shaun Ainscough up to speed with his confidence, defence and looking at ways to help him out with the high ball.
He has scored 13 tries, averages 87 metres per game, burst 39 tackles

[TonyH]

I like Noble, I think he is the right man for the job and is a quality bloke off the field. Thats my opinion, and free from instults to anyone who thinks otherwise! Everyones entitled to their opinion, just 'cause it's different there's no need to insult them.

[cherrywarrior]

I said a few weeks back I wasnt going to comment on Noble again as it was getting repetitive, to get off his back and leave it till nearer the end of the season... Im quite impressed at how well I have stuck to it so far...

[ian b]

:thum:

why not give him the freedom of the town as well








:eusa9: :eusa17: :eusa7:

What are you yapping on about, have you actually read what ive put, or just read the "give Noble another 2 year deal" bit??

If the team continues to play like it has been playing give me a good reason not to Give Noble a year or two?

Is there a better coach available at this very time?? Im not interested in assistant this assistant that from the NRL because lets face it they havent won owt, I want an establised coach who has won a bit.

If you dont like the rugby being played dont watch it, its that simple. But untill a world class coach becomes available im sticking with Noble and whatever anybody says to me to try and convince me otherwise you are seriously wasting your time and your effort posting a reply.

iam with you mate

[OAMJSONA]

Jesus only spent 40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness


over 3 years now with Noble

[the-Bowtun-Warrior]

Ian Lenagan has heaped special praise on Brian Noble ahead of tomorrow's Super League showdown at fierce rivals St Helens

http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lena ... 5508421.jp


excement! :sly:

[OAMJSONA]

Ian Lenagan has heaped special praise on Brian Noble ahead of tomorrow's Super League showdown at fierce rivals St Helens

http://www.wigantoday.net/warriors/Lena ... 5508421.jp


excement! :sly:

here endeth the lesson

[platt-warrior]

:slee:

[LKC29]

Like or loathe Noble you have to admitt that come the business end of the season he does seem to have the formula to get us playing well, as demonstrated in all his previous seasons.

Luck more than judgement IMO.

For example the fact Smith has been injured has kept Sam in the side which has meant the half backs and hookers are not all swapped about as they were being when Riddell went off.

The musical chairs to accommodate Riddell going off, TL to 9, Smith to 7 and Sam to 6 has gone.

So despite MM's injury we are more settled in 4 key positions than they way Noble chose to play the side when Smith was available.

Would Noble have continued with this formation or as GeoffN said dropped Sam as he did for the HKR game? I think so. No evidence to the contrary.

So one major gripe I and many others had about Noble's selections went away all because Tim Smith suffered a season ending injury, not by Noble's design.

Dave

Dave,
point taken perhaps but what about all the previous seasons?