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Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:38 am Would like to just add one final point to this thread - people happy that Lam is gone yet no one seems to question Lockers - Tommy etc when they are given automatic coaching roles at the club. In fact most people seem to encourage it especially in the case of lockers.

Lam was one of the best scrum-halfs to ever play for Wigan - he was an incredibly intelligent footballer who could control a game to his whim.

My point is good players dont always make good coaches - Jobs for the Boys will kill Wigan if they dont treat the backroom staff as professionals and have them earn their spots on merrit

DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:51 am

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:38 am Would like to just add one final point to this thread - people happy that Lam is gone yet no one seems to question Lockers - Tommy etc when they are given automatic coaching roles at the club. In fact most people seem to encourage it especially in the case of lockers.

Lam was one of the best scrum-halfs to ever play for Wigan - he was an incredibly intelligent footballer who could control a game to his whim.

My point is good players dont always make good coaches - Jobs for the Boys will kill Wigan if they dont treat the backroom staff as professionals and have them earn their spots on merrit

I agree but I do think it is questioned regularly. The club also seems to be trying to find roles for Manfredi and Clubb though I am pretty sure for Clubb it's not to do with coaching (don't know about Manfredi).

I don't get it. How when it is strapped for cash can the club keep offering jobs to retired players and that is before we consider if any of them offered coaching roles are going to be good coaches?

Caboosegg wrote:

DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:51 am

Wigan_forever1985 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:38 am Would like to just add one final point to this thread - people happy that Lam is gone yet no one seems to question Lockers - Tommy etc when they are given automatic coaching roles at the club. In fact most people seem to encourage it especially in the case of lockers.

Lam was one of the best scrum-halfs to ever play for Wigan - he was an incredibly intelligent footballer who could control a game to his whim.

My point is good players dont always make good coaches - Jobs for the Boys will kill Wigan if they dont treat the backroom staff as professionals and have them earn their spots on merrit

I agree but I do think it is questioned regularly. The club also seems to be trying to find roles for Manfredi and Clubb though I am pretty sure for Clubb it's not to do with coaching (don't know about Manfredi).

I don't get it. How when it is strapped for cash can the club keep offering jobs to retired players and that is before we consider if any of them offered coaching roles are going to be good coaches?

A bit of fact manipulation really. Lockers had been working toward joining the coaching team for a few years before his retirement hadn't he.

Tommy we have no idea if he will he a first team coach or not yet. I'd hope Goulding would step up first he seems to be going okay..

DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:36 pm

Caboosegg wrote:

DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:51 am

I agree but I do think it is questioned regularly. The club also seems to be trying to find roles for Manfredi and Clubb though I am pretty sure for Clubb it's not to do with coaching (don't know about Manfredi).

I don't get it. How when it is strapped for cash can the club keep offering jobs to retired players and that is before we consider if any of them offered coaching roles are going to be good coaches?

A bit of fact manipulation really. Lockers had been working toward joining the coaching team for a few years before his retirement hadn't he.

Tommy we have no idea if he will he a first team coach or not yet. I'd hope Goulding would step up first he seems to be going okay..

Fact manipulation? What are you on about? So what if Lockers has been working for coaching badges? Does getting a badge make you a good coach?

It seems a lot of players go after their coaching badges. Should getting a coaching badge get you a job at Wigan when you retire?

It’s been taken as read TL will join the coaching staff for a few years. Doesn’t matter if it’s the first team or not initially, it’s another retired player given a job coaching.

And what about Manfredi and Clubb? Roles for them being lined up supposedly.

It’s all very nice looking after retired players but the club doesn’t owe them a living and it won’t get any new ideas employing ex players.

Caboosegg wrote:

DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:36 pm

Caboosegg wrote:
A bit of fact manipulation really. Lockers had been working toward joining the coaching team for a few years before his retirement hadn't he.

Tommy we have no idea if he will he a first team coach or not yet. I'd hope Goulding would step up first he seems to be going okay..

Fact manipulation? What are you on about? So what if Lockers has been working for coaching badges? Does getting a badge make you a good coach?

It seems a lot of players go after their coaching badges. Should getting a coaching badge get you a job at Wigan when you retire?

It’s been taken as read TL will join the coaching staff for a few years. Doesn’t matter if it’s the first team or not initially, it’s another retired player given a job coaching.

And what about Manfredi and Clubb? Roles for them being lined up supposedly.

It’s all very nice looking after retired players but the club doesn’t owe them a living and it won’t get any new ideas employing ex players.

It is fact manipulation, you posting like lockers walked off the pitch and got a coaching gig for no reason other than its lockers. That isn't what happened at all.

And you talking rubbish on new ideas as well, people have different ideas that they can't implement until they are in role in any business not just rugby. To act like because you played for the club means you a clone thought wise is obscene.

I would like to see new ideas come in but I'm also not going to Instantly write someone off because of a negative bias towards the current club set up.