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just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

wooder wrote:just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

Some of the more advanced coaches may consider a term known as "dropping them".

wooder wrote:just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

John Monie said it took 12 months to ruin a good set up. I actually think you can see cracks appearing in Leeds as Mclennan enters his sercond year.

Do you really think our players are so bad? Personally I think we have a squad capable of being top 4 easily. We had the best player in SL in Trent. We have the best youngsters in SL.

We are the biggest underachievers in SL

wooder wrote: you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do?

Would we agree that Wigan have a much stronger playing squad than Harlequins for example ?

I'd say a resounding yes.

So the question must be asked, why are Quins higher up the ladder than Wigan, who as CPW said in another tread have more resources, juniors, gym facilities, big name players etc.
The list of things in Wigan's favour is clear for all to see, except for maybe one key position.

wooder wrote:just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

silly comment, if that was true then there would be no point having coaches.

cpwigan wrote:

wooder wrote:just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

John Monie said it took 12 months to ruin a good set up. I actually think you can see cracks appearing in Leeds as Mclennan enters his sercond year.

Do you really think our players are so bad? Personally I think we have a squad capable of being top 4 easily. We had the best player in SL in Trent. We have the best youngsters in SL.

We are the biggest underachievers in SL

We just need the best coach in RL to turn it all around - Wayne Bennett.

You are right, a decent coach who has bottle and a backbone which Noble lacks, would turn this around.

2009 is a right off if we are beaten by Wire on 8th August.

Murray isnt the answer and Kierney relied too much on Bennett to be a reliable choice of replacement coach if Noble is leaving or pushed.

sheens or bennet for me

pedro wrote:

wooder wrote:just say we could do this for a month ?we swap coaches with saints! i bet we carry on as we are hit and miss and saints carry on winning . you can get any coach in the world if players are not good enough their is nothing he can do? these are not under 13 s. players should not need telling what is wrong we have got a team full of dosie b------ds that we have to live with . you have to be a good loser to be a good winner the day will come .

silly comment, if that was true then there would be no point having coaches.

Exactly Pedro

Based on what Noble and Wooder and Highland Convert believe had Lockers and Hock played everythng would have been fine. No need for a coach. Lockers and Hock are more important than Noble. An even scarier thought, Millward had to do without Hock and Lockers for nearly a whole season. Maybe we should never have sacked him lol We mistreated Millward.

My comments are said in jest BTW re Millward

pedro wrote:sheens or bennet for me

Would love it Pedro.
Can Vievers not bend Bennetts arm a little being his in-law.

He will never leave oz as I believe he takes care of his handicapped child who is settled over there. (I could be wrong though)

Sheens is a no go as hes the new national coach.


Stuart Raper would do im not fussy as ANY coach in oz would improve us over this guy