Wigan versus Warrington

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

Mossop and Clubb the only 2 forwards who have shown up tonight, the rest are dismal.

Tonight shows what happens when you reach the tipping point of squad depth ; you get a battering - same way we did at Wakefield.

Mossop got bullied, he is simply not good enough for Wigan. What was he doing on the wing late in the game? What was that so called pass to Charnley, he should hold his head in shame. His defence is appalling we need him to set an example to our young players not hide behind them.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

It's a fair point you continue to make TrueBlue Warrior. But I think you are missing the point. We had a full strength team at the beginning of the season but we were still sh**e Our attack has been aweful all season just look at our points for. Wane is ruining our great club and must go soon!!

Our tactics remind me of the dour Yorrkshire teams pre SL. Our main move is a drop off pass to a forward turning back in side! Our most experienced half-back who for some reason cannot be dropped no matter how bad he performs has no vision, no pace, no skill, no kicking game, he cannot beat a man and his tackling is abysmal.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

Anyone with any common sense irrelevant of RL knowledge would surely appreciate having a full pack missing and 2 top class backs would impact on how we perform, like I said we played awful but will reserve judgment till we get some players back, if it continues then I will be worried!

But it's not all bad luck is it?

You say 2 top class backs I'm assuming your including Tomkins in that? Well we knew before we signed him he would be missing most the season, despite this we signed him on the most money in the squad and didn't think that maybe it would be a good idea to sign a 1 yr deal with some decent cover

Mickey Mac - we sold our only other back up hooker so now we have no back up when he is out unless you accept Powell is now a hooker and in that case we are OK in that area according to the club

half back - we have a player who is desperate to play 6 and be given a run and he is playing for another club so we have a junior 2nd row playing at 6 - regardless what you think of Hampshire surely he could have been given a shot before patching up with players who could have their confidence damaged in those places

Wing - well we had 3 good wingers we lost one so we had 2 - expecting them both to stay injury free?

Injuries happen we have about 600 2nd rowers so at lest they can carry on getting injured

I never said it was bad luck it is just a fact big players are missing, but if they come back and we don't improve then I will be worried, at this moment I will just cling on to the fact we have a full pack and 2 quality backs missing!!

We will improve and I believe that we will still make the top four and probably make the GF. That however should not cloud the fact that some players are not good enough and should be nowhere near the squad nor that we all boring to watch. I for one no longer look forward to matches as the entertainment value is nil. To do nothing is not a solution.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

Shaun Wane says "it's not tough to take, they were the better team"

Actually it is tough to take, being thrashed by a poor Warrington side is tough to take. Was I stressed at Wakefield, yes. I was even if he wasn't.

He needs to get upset and do something about it. Ok we have men missing, but it doesn't mean you can't have a plan with what you have available.

If he's not bothered then let me know and I can save myself a lot of money every week.

That is the point you are paying good hard earned money to watch crap week in week out, Waney is getting paid to watch it.

[DaveO]

We will improve and I believe that we will still make the top four and probably make the GF. That however should not cloud the fact that some players are not good enough and should be nowhere near the squad nor that we all boring to watch. I for one no longer look forward to matches as the entertainment value is nil. To do nothing is not a solution.

We will improve but to get to a CC or GF we will need a lot of luck.

I think we will need to have every senior player fit and I think we will need to avoid Les Cats and Wire in the CC and play offs and if we don't, we will need them to have an injury crisis like ours.

[shaunedwardsfanclub]

So a team cannot play good rugby with injuries?
Good rugby is down to tactics( coaching) IMO
Having injuries may stop us competing 100%,but it doesnt stop us forgetting how to play the game.
Tony smith is a top coach.He gets his team defence to charge our forwards and also he knows which players to pinpoint when we do set plays
We are a very fit team but players like tierney,sarge and gildart should not be making the hard yards in our 25

I didn't expect us to win tonight but I do expect us to perform better than we did. I expect us to play a better brand of rugby, we must be the least entertaining team in the competition. I expect each player to give 100%. I expect the coach to make changes when players are failing to perform. I expect the owner and the management team to demand more from the coach and players, otherwise I expect change. I expect our senior players to stand up and show an example to our young guys. I expect our players to tackle, back-up, be able to pass a ball. I expect all of those salaried by the club to show pride in the cherry and white shirt. The club expect me to pay good money and support the club. I feel that they are getting the best of the deal at the moment.

[old hooker]

I have already said we played awful and maybe that's because some of the players simply aren't good enough and not just about poor coaching!

Poor reply, it is not necessary to get personal with posts but it happens far too often on here.

Of course it's poor coaching he picks the bl**dy players if they are not good enough should not be playing. Just been to my last away game had enough this season and to top it all some b*st*rd keyed my car.I have to admire your blind faith.

Clearly you are blind full stop, was it not you that keyed your own car? I said it's not 'just about poor coaching', meaning poor coaching is part of it along with players that aren't good enough, is that really that difficult to follow?

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Of course it's poor coaching he picks the bl**dy players if they are not good enough should not be playing. Just been to my last away game had enough this season and to top it all some b*st*rd keyed my car.I have to admire your blind faith.

Clearly you are blind full stop, was it not you that keyed your own car? I said it's not 'just about poor coaching', meaning poor coaching is part of it along with players that aren't good enough, is that really that difficult to follow?

Be CAREFULL. Do not get personal. I have an opinion if you don't like it don't reply to my post. But don't insult me.

You questioned my faith, is that not personal and you completely misunderstood my post, again not my fault!!

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Clearly you are blind full stop, was it not you that keyed your own car? I said it's not 'just about poor coaching', meaning poor coaching is part of it along with players that aren't good enough, is that really that difficult to follow?

That comment about the car is in very poor taste TBW. :eusa9:

If the players aren't good enough why did Wane put them in the squad?

Isn't it obvious he has his favourites like Powell and basically any player he signed? Regardless of ability.

Monie was never close to players. Wane clearly is and it's a bad thing. He is not detached enough and so in my opinion makes poor choices.

The fact some of the players aren't good enough doesn't exonerate him from the charge of bad coaching when it was him who signed them or decide to go with them when they aren't ready and keeps picking them regardless.

DaveO, I will take comments about bad taste from many posters on here but unfortunately you are not one as there have been examples of you showing bad taste and insulting other posters!!

As for the rest of your post due to the SC and the overall standard of SL dropping all SL teams have players in that are simply not good enough, it's a reflection of the sport in general!

Again I never said it did exonerate him from poor coaching so please stop putting words in my mouth that I have clearly not used, as it leaves a bad taste and it's something you do quite a lot!!

Due to the amount of injuries some players are asking to be played more than they should at their age and ability level and are not quite ready for week in week out RL!

[TrueBlueWarrior]

Poor reply, it is not necessary to get personal with posts but it happens far too often on here.

Of course it's poor coaching he picks the bl**dy players if they are not good enough should not be playing. Just been to my last away game had enough this season and to top it all some b*st*rd keyed my car.I have to admire your blind faith.

Clearly you are blind full stop, was it not you that keyed your own car? I said it's not 'just about poor coaching', meaning poor coaching is part of it along with players that aren't good enough, is that really that difficult to follow?

Maybe I am wrong but 'your blind faith' is surely personal is it not?