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Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:04 am
by Nine
To save a lot of unnecessary and uninformed speculation I thought it might be useful to let people know that there are official sentencing guides for offences such as GBH, available at
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/
My reading of the relevant bits is that for a first offence, with no special aggravating factors, some mitigation and where a guilty plea has been entered, the official guideline states the sentence should range from community service at the bottom end of the scale up to a maximum of 36 weeks’ custody at the top end.
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:23 pm
by DaveO
Well according to Wigan Today the judge is considering either a suspended sentence or even a lesser sentence than that.
June 16th is the sentence hearing.
It's now all in the open and the trial over, he is guilty of GBH and so now it remains to be seen just what the sentence will be and whether the club or the RFL will take any further action e.g. for bringing the club and/or game into disrepute.
So far the club has declined to comment.
Dave
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:27 pm
by luke_robinsons_angel
DaveO wrote:Well according to Wigan Today the judge is considering either a suspended sentence or even a lesser sentence than that.
June 16th is the sentence hearing.
It's now all in the open and the trial over, he is guilty of GBH and so now it remains to be seen just what the sentence will be and whether the club or the RFL will take any further action e.g. for bringing the club and/or game into disrepute.
So far the club has declined to comment.
Dave
it isn't really a club matter, other players have done worse and the RFL have done nothing so this should be no different.
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:29 pm
by medlocke
If a certain Oz club turned a blind eye to the greatest player in the world's drug taking without any reprimand, then why should anything further come from Feka bringing back the biff, after all it's not like he was caught snorting cocaine or hiring Thai lady boy hookers or anything.
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:41 pm
by DaveO
luke_robinsons_ angel wrote:DaveO wrote:Well according to Wigan Today the judge is considering either a suspended sentence or even a lesser sentence than that.
June 16th is the sentence hearing.
It's now all in the open and the trial over, he is guilty of GBH and so now it remains to be seen just what the sentence will be and whether the club or the RFL will take any further action e.g. for bringing the club and/or game into disrepute.
So far the club has declined to comment.
Dave
it isn't really a club matter, other players have done worse and the RFL have done nothing so this should be no different.
It is up to the club if they want to make it a club matter.
I'll give you an example. Saints sacked Millward for something far less than GBH because they chose to make an issue of it and it placed Millward in breech of contract.
If Wigan chose to, I am sure they could do the same and cancel Feka's contract over this and not have to pay him off thus saving salary cap money.
I am not saying they will or should but it really is up to the club to decide one way or the other.
Dave
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:49 pm
by Sutty
DaveO wrote:luke_robinsons_ angel wrote:DaveO wrote:Well according to Wigan Today the judge is considering either a suspended sentence or even a lesser sentence than that.
June 16th is the sentence hearing.
It's now all in the open and the trial over, he is guilty of GBH and so now it remains to be seen just what the sentence will be and whether the club or the RFL will take any further action e.g. for bringing the club and/or game into disrepute.
So far the club has declined to comment.
Dave
it isn't really a club matter, other players have done worse and the RFL have done nothing so this should be no different.
It is up to the club if they want to make it a club matter.
I'll give you an example. Saints sacked Millward for something far less than GBH because they chose to make an issue of it and it placed Millward in breech of contract.
If Wigan chose to, I am sure they could do the same and cancel Feka's contract over this and not have to pay him off thus saving salary cap money.
I am not saying they will or should but it really is up to the club to decide one way or the other.
Dave
That's one way of looking at it, but I though in the Milward case, that he had fallen out with the Directors and they were looking for a way of sacking him but without all the nasty fallout that can come from a sacking. This misdemeanor was just the excuse they needed and he was shown the door, with misconduct being cited as the reason. Just my opinion, of course
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 12:51 pm
by pedro
DaveO wrote:Well according to Wigan Today the judge is considering either a suspended sentence or even a lesser sentence than that.
June 16th is the sentence hearing.
It's now all in the open and the trial over, he is guilty of GBH and so now it remains to be seen just what the sentence will be and whether the club or the RFL will take any further action e.g. for bringing the club and/or game into disrepute.
So far the club has declined to comment.
Dave
Didnt matter to them when Jon Clarke was sent to jail for a year
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:01 pm
by DaveO
Sutty wrote:DaveO wrote:
It is up to the club if they want to make it a club matter.
I'll give you an example. Saints sacked Millward for something far less than GBH because they chose to make an issue of it and it placed Millward in breech of contract.
If Wigan chose to, I am sure they could do the same and cancel Feka's contract over this and not have to pay him off thus saving salary cap money.
I am not saying they will or should but it really is up to the club to decide one way or the other.
Dave
That's one way of looking at it, but I though in the Milward case, that he had fallen out with the Directors and they were looking for a way of sacking him but without all the nasty fallout that can come from a sacking. This misdemeanor was just the excuse they needed and he was shown the door, with misconduct being cited as the reason. Just my opinion, of course
Yes Saints wanted rid and so did exactly as you say. Millward gave the Saints board enough rope to hang him.
Feka has done the same - should Wigan want to get rid. I have no reason to think the club does want to get rid but if they do, then he has not got a leg to stand on.
If he is on a huge contract as a reward for deferring payments when the club did that, then the club now has a way out of that contract. Again I am not saying it would do this but Feka could not argue if it chose to do so.
The fact as someone else mentioned it didn't sack Clarke or some famous Aussie player did worse is not relevant.
Dave
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:02 pm
by Sutty
I thought the club did sack Clarke after his altercation outside a Wigan Nightclub. I apologise if I am wrong.
Re: Feka: sentencing guidelines
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:14 pm
by DaveO
Sutty wrote:I thought the club did sack Clarke after his altercation outside a Wigan Nightclub. I apologise if I am wrong.
I can't remember but I don't think he lasted long at the club after that incident whether sacked or "let go".
In any case we have different people in charge now with Lydon and IL so its up to them as to how they see Feka being convicted of GBH.
Dave