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please dont go off at me but if noble is sacked and we get another coach we would still be back to square one.we need players and coaches to gel over a long period of time.As much as i hate it,stains have done exactly this.Yes we should get rid of the dead wood ie:bailey,colbon,coley etc,and i think forshaw should be sacked because he cant get them fit.But we cant keep changing the team round every season or we will never move forward.I would stop signing aussies and give are young players more of a chance.After all edwards,farrell,robinson were only 17 when they turned out for us,i think.

The coach does not bring constincy to the team the PLAYERS do Wigan in there hey day had a number of coaches in this period but the key player stuck together.

havent wigan been guilty in the past of sacking perfectly good coaches ie:endecott raper and when this happens the team gets broken up again because different coaches want different players.

hope your right mate!

cherry.pie wrote:But Lydon is now in charge of player recruitment as far as I know. So a new coach will not be able to try and buy a whole new team but will work with the players that the board wants them to keep.

Havent you noticed that most of the team as it stands now have all had extended contracts for the next 3 years.The key to success is player stability not chopping and changing players every year. The secret of Saints/Leeds success they have players in key positions playing together for ages.The coaches have changed but not the core of players has not Sculthorpe,Long ,Cunningham,Wellens been together for a while you can bring players in that will slot into their kind of play Pryce for instance.

i agree,but wigan handed out their young talent and replaced them with overated aussies.

ian b wrote:please dont go off at me but if noble is sacked and we get another coach we would still be back to square one.we need players and coaches to gel over a long period of time.As much as i hate it,stains have done exactly this.Yes we should get rid of the dead wood ie:bailey,colbon,coley etc,and i think forshaw should be sacked because he cant get them fit.But we cant keep changing the team round every season or we will never move forward.I would stop signing aussies and give are young players more of a chance.After all edwards,farrell,robinson were only 17 when they turned out for us,i think.

But they were brought into a team which already had experienced players so it was a lot better for them. We have not got enough good experienced players to bring in too many young guns all at the same time they need experienced players around them to guide them and give them confidence.
Sorry to say it but Saints are playing and doing exactly the same thing with young players that we used to do.

ian b wrote:please dont go off at me but if noble is sacked and we get another coach we would still be back to square one.we need players and coaches to gel over a long period of time.As much as i hate it,stains have done exactly this.

You advocate "stability"

Yes we should get rid of the dead wood ie:bailey,colbon,coley etc,and i think forshaw should be sacked because he cant get them fit.

Then advocate "swapping" more players than those already leaving, plus a part-time conditioner who is working 80 hours a week to cover all three grades of team!

agree with everything you said except the one about coley being deadwood hes very solid does the hard yards

warriors united wrote:agree with everything you said except the one about coley being deadwood hes very solid does the hard yards

i was just to ask what has Coley done wrong?