Wigan 12 - Hull KR 20 - Match Reaction

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Wigan 12 - Hull KR 20 - Match Reaction

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Sounded like a cracking game. Can't really comment as I listened to the last 20 minutes.
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Sounds like we made so many mistakes towards the end.
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gpartin wrote:Sounds like we made so many mistakes towards the end.
They probably should have been penalties but that d*ck of a referee (and that is being generous) made them out to be mistakes.

We cannot play against 14 men, which we had all night tonight.
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The ball was like a bar of soap.

Controversial first Hull KR try. The rule on when the hooter sounds etc has changed several times in recent season. My understanding is still that once the hooter has sounded and the tackle is complete you cannot then allow a play of the ball which is what happened. Maybe the rant by Mogan earlier in the season paid off. Both teams were offside BTW despite what some may cry.

Lockers was magnificent.

Hull KR played into our hands a lot by playing at our right defence. They finally woke up later and started running at our left defence.

The longer the game went on the more telling was the direction of Dobson. Tommy has moments but he is no midfield general and Smith went missing as the game became tense. He allowed Hull KR to wind him up as did other players. We missed Sam T in the second half when at times both teams were struggling for energy.

A dogfight more than titanic. Not enough genuine class and that is perhaps the same across SL because Hull KR were nothing special but they were effective and had a bit more guidance from their playmakers. A game that could have gone either way in atrocious conditions.
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cpwigan wrote:The ball was like a bar of soap.

Controversial first Hull KR try. The rule on when the hooter sounds etc has changed several times in recent season. My understanding is still that once the hooter has sounded and the tackle is complete you cannot then allow a play of the ball which is what happened. Maybe the rant by Mogan earlier in the season paid off. Both teams were offside BTW despite what some may cry.

Lockers was magnificent.

Hull KR played into our hands a lot by playing at our right defence. They finally woke up later and started running at our left defence.

The longer the game went on the more telling was the direction of Dobson. Tommy has moments but he is no midfield general and Smith went missing as the game became tense. He allowed Hull KR to wind him up as did other players. We missed Sam T in the second half when at times both teams were struggling for energy.

A dogfight more than titanic. Not enough genuine class and that is perhaps the same across SL because Hull KR were nothing special but they were effective and had a bit more guidance from their playmakers. A game that could have gone either way in atrocious conditions.
That first Hull KR try should never have stood. RS has cost us at least a draw tonight. He should never have given a penalty in the first place, and then that lead to that try being scored, I thought after the hooter had gone.
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Heavy rain throughout meant it was always going to be a scrappy game, and so it proved, with loads of dropped ball from both sides.

The prize for the worst refereeing display of the season goes to Silverwood - just to clear up any doubt, the booing at half time was aimed at him, not the players.

Wigan dominated for 90% of the game, especially up front. A couple of horrible mistakes, from Smith & Carmont, let them in for two easy tries, but the only way HKR could get field position was on the back of Silverwood's bizarre decisions. The tackling was awesome, constantly knocking them back in the collision - McIlorum especially was everywhere in defence, and a superb try-saver from Roberts early on, holding Dobson up over the line when he looked odds-on to score.

Lovely pass from Smith to Lockers for his try, but that was just about Smith's only contribution to the game.

After the half-time hooter, Silverwood allowed the ball to be played, and they scored.

Second half, much of the same, including a Dobson 40-20 kicked from well beyond their 40 - though to be fair that was the TJ's decision, not Silverwood in that instance.

A lot of up-the middle stuff from us, but that was really the right tactics for the conditions, and we were unlucky not to score on a number of occasions - though credit is due to their goal-line defence, which was excellent.

MoM McIlorum, for me, though Lockers was a close contender, as was Leuluai.

Riddell did nothing, again, hopefully Nobby will have noticed how much more dangerous we look in attack with MM and ST on the field (though I won't hold my breath!). Smith was poor, all the forwards were outstanding, although we were disrupted late on by injuries to Prescott, Hock, Feka & McIlorum, hopefully none too serious.

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cpwigan wrote:The ball was like a bar of soap.

Controversial first Hull KR try. The rule on when the hooter sounds etc has changed several times in recent season. My understanding is still that once the hooter has sounded and the tackle is complete you cannot then allow a play of the ball which is what happened. Maybe the rant by Mogan earlier in the season paid off. Both teams were offside BTW despite what some may cry.

Lockers was magnificent.

Hull KR played into our hands a lot by playing at our right defence. They finally woke up later and started running at our left defence.

The longer the game went on the more telling was the direction of Dobson. Tommy has moments but he is no midfield general and Smith went missing as the game became tense. He allowed Hull KR to wind him up as did other players. We missed Sam T in the second half when at times both teams were struggling for energy.

A dogfight more than titanic. Not enough genuine class and that is perhaps the same across SL because Hull KR were nothing special but they were effective and had a bit more guidance from their playmakers. A game that could have gone either way in atrocious conditions.
Taken from the RFL rules:

"For Games in which a Club plays its first team the home team must provide a timekeeper
who shall sound the hooter immediately when 40 minutes has elapsed in each half
regardless of where the ball is. The away club shall be entitled to bring its own
timekeeper to the game in which case they shall sit together. The Referee will
acknowledge the sounding of the hooter and blow his whistle to end the game when the
ball is next out of player or a tackle is effected
."

Therefore RS dropped a clanger and could well have cost us the game. The Tim Smith kick was also aturning point.

Whatever happened to Billy McGinty's pineapple?
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Listened to radio humberside so probably got their bias but they said rovers had all the 50/50 calls in the first 70 but ref made up for it in last 10.

Fielden seemed to be dropping a lot too.
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Re: Wigan 12 - Hull KR 20 - Match Reaction

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East Stand Faithful wrote:
cpwigan wrote:The ball was like a bar of soap.

Controversial first Hull KR try. The rule on when the hooter sounds etc has changed several times in recent season. My understanding is still that once the hooter has sounded and the tackle is complete you cannot then allow a play of the ball which is what happened. Maybe the rant by Mogan earlier in the season paid off. Both teams were offside BTW despite what some may cry.

Lockers was magnificent.

Hull KR played into our hands a lot by playing at our right defence. They finally woke up later and started running at our left defence.

The longer the game went on the more telling was the direction of Dobson. Tommy has moments but he is no midfield general and Smith went missing as the game became tense. He allowed Hull KR to wind him up as did other players. We missed Sam T in the second half when at times both teams were struggling for energy.

A dogfight more than titanic. Not enough genuine class and that is perhaps the same across SL because Hull KR were nothing special but they were effective and had a bit more guidance from their playmakers. A game that could have gone either way in atrocious conditions.
Taken from the RFL rules:

"For Games in which a Club plays its first team the home team must provide a timekeeper
who shall sound the hooter immediately when 40 minutes has elapsed in each half
regardless of where the ball is. The away club shall be entitled to bring its own
timekeeper to the game in which case they shall sit together. The Referee will
acknowledge the sounding of the hooter and blow his whistle to end the game when the
ball is next out of player or a tackle is effected
."

Therefore RS dropped a clanger and could well have cost us the game. The Tim Smith kick was also aturning point.
Not could have, he HAS done.
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Re: Wigan 12 - Hull KR 20 - Match Reaction

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We dropped the ball far too often in vital moments, especially later in the 2nd half when we were chasing the game at that point.

The ref was awful, how on Earth did he allow that play the ball after the hooter had sounded for half time!!

Another clanger he made was the "supposed" charge down from Dobson's kick and he wiped the tackle count to zero, it should have been a handover to Wigan on the KR tryline as there was no chance it was a charge down.

Dobson kicked the ball and it smashed into a Wigan player at point blank range who wasn't even attempting to make a charge down.

The RFL talks about respect for the match officials, how about respecting supporters & players by sorting out refereeing standards :angry:

Lockers & McIlorum didn't deserve to be on the losing team tonight, well played lads.
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