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I know I have gone on for a long time about this but still feel we are lacking some reals size and power in the forwards
Not the biggest of front rowers
A very fit and mobile back/second row but again no real size in there or impact with Hock gone
To me Mossop has to be in the 17 as a back rower - he offers some size and power

We need to use the 17 - which is four props playing a total of 40 minutes each and four back rowers playing a total of 240 minutes between them - 60 minutes each - or keep Lockers on and look for 50 minutes from the other three

It doesn't matter who we have in the halves/backs if the go forward and platform is not there.

Wouldn't this all depend on how our new coach wants Wigan to play now?

If we still had Nobby with his forward obsessed gameplan - then I agree.

Marc Bitcom has a reputation of bulking up forwards aka the Scottish RU side if they have bulk and mobility and coached to their potential I do not see any problem with the pack.

jaws1 wrote:Marc Bitcom has a reputation of bulking up forwards aka the Scottish RU side if they have bulk and mobility and coached to their potential I do not see any problem with the pack.

Me neither Jaws

josie andrews wrote:

jaws1 wrote:Marc Bitcom has a reputation of bulking up forwards aka the Scottish RU side if they have bulk and mobility and coached to their potential I do not see any problem with the pack.

Me neither Jaws

I agree, let's see what the new coaching/fitness team have done before we tell them how to do it.

exile in Tiger country wrote:

josie andrews wrote:

jaws1 wrote:Marc Bitcom has a reputation of bulking up forwards aka the Scottish RU side if they have bulk and mobility and coached to their potential I do not see any problem with the pack.

Me neither Jaws

I agree, let's see what the new coaching/fitness team have done before we tell them how to do it.

thomo wrote:I know I have gone on for a long time about this but still feel we are lacking some reals size and power in the forwards
Not the biggest of front rowers
A very fit and mobile back/second row but again no real size in there or impact with Hock gone
To me Mossop has to be in the 17 as a back rower - he offers some size and power

We need to use the 17 - which is four props playing a total of 40 minutes each and four back rowers playing a total of 240 minutes between them - 60 minutes each - or keep Lockers on and look for 50 minutes from the other three

It doesn't matter who we have in the halves/backs if the go forward and platform is not there.

I would love to see how a fit and committed Karl Pryce would go in the 2nd row. I'm just not sure if he has the agility to play out wide anymore and playing him in the backrow could be the best chance of using his size.

jaws1 wrote:Marc Bitcom has a reputation of bulking up forwards aka the Scottish RU side if they have bulk and mobility and coached to their potential I do not see any problem with the pack.

Fielden useless,Prescott,Coley average,OCarroll not big enough,Fekka unfit, Hansen not good enough.That was what was wrong with our pack last season and apart from the fitness aspect of Fekka i can see little chance of improvement.

old hooker wrote:Fielden useless,Prescott,Coley average,OCarroll not big enough,Fekka unfit, Hansen not good enough.That was what was wrong with our pack last season and apart from the fitness aspect of Fekka i can see little chance of improvement.

so basically what you're saying is 'we're doomed'

gpartin wrote:

old hooker wrote:Fielden useless,Prescott,Coley average,OCarroll not big enough,Fekka unfit, Hansen not good enough.That was what was wrong with our pack last season and apart from the fitness aspect of Fekka i can see little chance of improvement.

so basically what you're saying is 'we're doomed'