Shenton out

[TonyH]

Sounds like Shenton will be out of the 4 Nations with a lower leg injury, well that's according to a Tweet by Dave Woods, I'd be tempted to throw Clubb in the centres with Widdop and drop Atkins, Clubb can't be any worse than Atkins and he might be enthusiastic at getting his chance, I really really despise Ryan Atkins after yesterdays abysmal attempt at trying to prove he is one of our best centres? Glees should have gone.

[Panchitta Marra]

Sounds like Shenton will be out of the 4 Nations with a lower leg injury, well that's according to a Tweet by Dave Woods, I'd be tempted to throw Clubb in the centres with Widdop and drop Atkins, Clubb can't be any worse than Atkins and he might be enthusiastic at getting his chance, I really really despise Ryan Atkins after yesterdays abysmal attempt at trying to prove he is one of our best centres? Glees should have gone.

We can all understand a coach wanting to bring in young fresh players into a national team.
But surely that should be only if the players are good enough.
In latter years England/GB has never been blessed with real top class centres and we are embarrasingly weak in that position at the moment.
Tony Clubb is officially the worst tackler in SL according to the Engage Sperleague with 92 missed tackles this season, and has scored only 5 tries.
Martin Gleeson has had one of his best seasons for years, and has played just as good, if not better than any other centre in SL.
How can this justify Tony Clubb being selected for England ahead of a proven, in form, and previous test centre in Martin Gleeson.
With this and other poor player selections, and for the sake of our national pride, Steve McNamarra has to go.

[Panchitta Marra]

Sounds like Shenton will be out of the 4 Nations with a lower leg injury, well that's according to a Tweet by Dave Woods, I'd be tempted to throw Clubb in the centres with Widdop and drop Atkins, Clubb can't be any worse than Atkins and he might be enthusiastic at getting his chance, I really really despise Ryan Atkins after yesterdays abysmal attempt at trying to prove he is one of our best centres? Glees should have gone.

We can all understand a coach wanting to bring in young fresh players into his national team.
But surely that should be only if the players are good enough.
In latter years England/GB has never been blessed with real top class centres and we are embarrasingly weak in that position at the moment.
Tony Clubb is officially the worst tackler in SL according to the Engage Sperleague with 92 missed tackles this season, and has scored only 5 tries.
Martin Gleeson has had one of his best seasons for years, and has played just as good, if not better than any other centre in SL.
How can this justify Tony Clubb being selected for England ahead of a proven, in form, and previous test centre in Martin Gleeson.
With this and other poor player selections, and for the sake of our national pride, Steve McNamarra has to go.

[The Eclipse]

I would put Goulding in the centres with Shenton out.

[highland convert]

The series was a writeoff from the start. I suspect it has little to do with 4 nations but the build up for the next world cup two years down the line where the likes of gleeson will be too long in the tooth. PNG are honest about playing players starting their international career. Players down under at the moment will stick or be replaced dependent on performance. A couple of old hands to keep the shape and the young guns to prove their worth, no more no less.
Jim

[Wigan_forever1985]

I wouldn't have Clubb anywhere near an international jersey, he's not too bad going forward but look at his stats in defense this year 92 missed tackles and thats against SL teams against Oz thats an invitation to a landslide!

[Panchitta Marra]

I would put Goulding in the centres with Shenton out.

I agree Eclipse, he has been good enough to play in the centres from the start of the tournament.

[josie andrews]

Gleeson has retired from international rugby

[Kittwazzer]

Not been on RedVee lately but I bet some fans are blaming Shenton's injury on the St Helens curse!

[Sutty]

Not been on RedVee lately but I bet some fans are blaming Shenton's injury on the St Helens curse!

I was on there yesterday, and yup, some of them are indeed blaming the Stains curse.