20/20
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SOUTHPORT WARRIOR
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20/20
i have only just got interested in rl can someone please tell me what they mean by 20/20 regarding the squad thanks
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mrs_carney
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Re: 20/20
i think its 20players in the squad on 20k a season isnt it?
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proud_pie_eater
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Re: 20/20
Only 20 players in any squad can be paid more than 20 thousand a year but they find ways to get arround it, ie they pay their wives 
It gets a bit complecated at times if your not used to it but im sure you will in time! Clubs get penalised if they break the salary cap and they get big fines and even points taken off them in the league! Halifax a few years ago only won one game and got two points but those well earned points were taken away due to a breech in the salery cap, unfair!
It gets a bit complecated at times if your not used to it but im sure you will in time! Clubs get penalised if they break the salary cap and they get big fines and even points taken off them in the league! Halifax a few years ago only won one game and got two points but those well earned points were taken away due to a breech in the salery cap, unfair!NUMBER 1 SPOT HERE WE COME!!!
Re: 20/20
For the benefit of the original poster, the 20/20 was brought in to try and ensure every team had some young players in their first team squad.
The total you can spend on players wages is 1.8 million quid or 50% if a clubs income (whichever is smaller). However if only 20 can earn over £20K and you only had 20 players, that would not be a large enough squad to go through a season.
So the additional players you need to make the squad up to a reasonable number will have to be low paid and thus young and inexperienced.
Seems reasonable on the surface until you end up in Wigans postition where we have quite a few youngsters who will, in a season or two's time, command wages of more than £20K.
The club then has to get rid of a top 20 earner to accomodate the up and coming star in the top 20 or get rid of the up and coming star instead.
This means clubs like Wigan who produce a lot of good young players have a dilemma of who to get rid of.
Other clubs who don't produce players in the same way are happy to pick up what we can't keep.
It used to be worse than this. The 20/20 rule was actually the 20/20/20 rule. The "extra" 20 was the number of first team SL games a player played. If he played 20 or more then he was automatically counted as being one of the top 20 earners regardless of how much he did actually earn.
Given Wigan have had rotten luck with inuries and so played young players more then they would like, this was a potential serious problem for us.
The loss of Briscoe to Hull was in part, IMO, down to this rule.
The rule was changed to 20/20/30 - so the number of games went up to 30 before the player was automatically placed in the top 20 earners and no sooner did that happen than it was thankfully scrapped leaving us with just the 20/20.
Dave
The total you can spend on players wages is 1.8 million quid or 50% if a clubs income (whichever is smaller). However if only 20 can earn over £20K and you only had 20 players, that would not be a large enough squad to go through a season.
So the additional players you need to make the squad up to a reasonable number will have to be low paid and thus young and inexperienced.
Seems reasonable on the surface until you end up in Wigans postition where we have quite a few youngsters who will, in a season or two's time, command wages of more than £20K.
The club then has to get rid of a top 20 earner to accomodate the up and coming star in the top 20 or get rid of the up and coming star instead.
This means clubs like Wigan who produce a lot of good young players have a dilemma of who to get rid of.
Other clubs who don't produce players in the same way are happy to pick up what we can't keep.
It used to be worse than this. The 20/20 rule was actually the 20/20/20 rule. The "extra" 20 was the number of first team SL games a player played. If he played 20 or more then he was automatically counted as being one of the top 20 earners regardless of how much he did actually earn.
Given Wigan have had rotten luck with inuries and so played young players more then they would like, this was a potential serious problem for us.
The loss of Briscoe to Hull was in part, IMO, down to this rule.
The rule was changed to 20/20/30 - so the number of games went up to 30 before the player was automatically placed in the top 20 earners and no sooner did that happen than it was thankfully scrapped leaving us with just the 20/20.
Dave
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proud_pie_eater
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Re: 20/20
Good summing up, Dave.
The problem being, of course, that 20 players are nowhere near enough for a squad, as we're already seeing with our injury situation.
The idea's ok in principle, but would be better as , say, 25/25. That still leaves almost two-thirds of the total cap amount to boost the top wages.
Let's face it, £20k p.a. isn't a lot these days!
The problem being, of course, that 20 players are nowhere near enough for a squad, as we're already seeing with our injury situation.
The idea's ok in principle, but would be better as , say, 25/25. That still leaves almost two-thirds of the total cap amount to boost the top wages.
Let's face it, £20k p.a. isn't a lot these days!
Re: 20/20
The Australian system is $3.25 million spread over 25 players.GeoffN posted:
The idea's ok in principle, but would be better as , say, 25/25. That still leaves almost two-thirds of the total cap amount to boost the top wages.
Let's face it, £20k p.a. isn't a lot these days!
And I agree £20K isn't a lot when you consider that players like Prescott and Hargreaves are expected to face up to players earning anything up to 10 times that much such as Fielden.
Players can only command high salaries after establishing themselves so will only be high earners for something like five or six years out of a (if they are lucky) 10 year career.
Dave