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Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:30 am
by Kaii
Only an idiot would purposely weaken his own side to face the best international team in the world. Does anything more need to be said?

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:21 am
by Owd Codger
Kaii wrote:Only an idiot would purposely weaken his own side to face the best international team in the world. Does anything more need to be said?
Perhaps the self proclaimed shepherd leading a few sheep to the trough may have had something to do with it.

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:39 am
by Aluaka
Kaii wrote:Only an idiot would purposely weaken his own side to face the best international team in the world. Does anything more need to be said?
I can see your point Kaii, and these were my first thoughts - however I am disgusted in the players who are treating this as some big 'jolly' and players drinking sessions during preparation for a tournament like this cannot be tolerated.

England needs commitment - if it's not there, those involved need to be dropped.

I'd rather have a team who are committed to the cause on the pitch than a bunch of hungover p-heads taking the places of those who would be committed to their team and country.

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:22 am
by Aaron C. Rescue
Kaii wrote:Only an idiot would purposely weaken his own side to face the best international team in the world. Does anything more need to be said?


Its called discipline, without it we have no chance, the players should know that, not only have they let themselves down, they have shown disrespect to their team mates. Whatever they think about the coach, when your in camp (club or country)you abide by the rules set down.

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:34 am
by Aluaka
Aaron C. Rescue wrote:
Kaii wrote:Only an idiot would purposely weaken his own side to face the best international team in the world. Does anything more need to be said?


Its called discipline, without it we have no chance, the players should know that, not only have they let themselves down, they have shown disrespect to their team mates. Whatever they think about the coach, when your in camp (club or country)you abide by the rules set down.
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What he said! Spot on Aaron!

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:20 pm
by Aaron C. Rescue
mickw wrote:Second rate coach that doesn't command the respect of the players,if we had a decent coach this wouldn't have happened get rid now before the thing starts.

Great idea !, give the job to someone at less than 24 hours notice, that would really improve our chances.

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:31 pm
by markill
It could work in our favour really. I don't rate McNamara either but I've been trying to see both sides of it.

1) there will be players (still very good players in that) who will know their place is at jeopardy when those players come back. It could galvanise who we have on the field.

2) It isn't a must win game so it gives more people exposure/playing time in case injuries mean they are needed in the latter stages. Squad players may be more prepared.

3) It sets a precedent that this type of thing will not be tolerated, it puts some discipline into the players and hopefully makes those who stepped out of line have an attitude to prove they are sorry and want to do their best for England.

I want this World Cup to be great for supporters and England so I'm going to try and see the positives until its over. What has happened isn't brilliant, it isn't idea, but we can overcome it if it happens now and is done and dusted. Lets hope it is

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:33 pm
by bill.inger
.....and now he's walked out of a press conference 'cos journos kept asking about James Graham not being selected.

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:37 pm
by jobo
bill.inger wrote: .....and now he's walked out of a press conference 'cos journos kept asking about James Graham not being selected.
He's a crackpot.

My bet is looking better by the minute.

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... conference

Re: Only an idiot...

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:42 pm
by markill
He probably could have been more forthcoming that other players have been disciplined for breaching rules, seeing as its in the public domain already, but once he's said he isn't going to comment on it, the press (whilst only doing their job do get a headline like this) aren't doing anyone any favours really. They can write what they want anyway, they've already written it in some quarters, so they might as well not repeat the same questions if they have anything else to ask him. Its all a panto now. If only no one had gone for a drink...