Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:58 am
Is it true, just seen it on Bilkos facebook that Ben will be stripped of half his wages during suspension
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Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:01 pm
I don't know how they will have done it but it will have definitely cost him money!!
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:03 pm
Think i need glasses lol, didn't even see the link for this on there 
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http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=newsRe: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:15 pm
Wigan Warriors have today completed the Disciplinary Process arising from Ben Flower's actions at the 2014 Grand Final. The process started immediately after the RFL's Disciplinary actions but has taken until this week to complete because of pre-planned post-season breaks and holidays.
Flower has been found guilty of Gross Misconduct due to violent conduct bringing into disrepute the Wigan club and the game of Rugby League.
In view of the player's previous record and his remorse, the Wigan Club has decided that he be fined 50% of his wages for a period of six months and must undergo a rehabilitation programme involving service with young people in the Community during his banned period as he prepares to rebuild his career. Three months of the fine will be suspended and subject to return during the next 12 months to his previous good record. This judgement was decided appropriate rather than summary dismissal which was possible from a Gross Misconduct verdict.
Chairman Ian Lenagan said:
"The Wigan Club has followed RFL protocol fully in conducting internal disciplinary action with Ben Flower following the incident at the Grand Final.
"We were extremely disappointed and angry at the actions of Ben Flower and stand in agreement with the Rugby Football League and the six month ban from playing which they handed down to Ben last month. There is no doubt that the reputation of this great Club has been damaged by this incident. This significant fine combined with the requirement for community service has been imposed to affirm Wigan's position that this is not the type of behaviour we want or expect from any of our players.
"Ben's action was totally unacceptable in Rugby League but was out of character and one for which he is deeply remorseful. It is our judgement that we should not dismiss him but should punish him financially and then support him through what will be a difficult rehabilitation period and a difficult return to playing.
Our Rugby General Manager Kris Radlinski, along with Head Coach Shaun Wane and Player Welfare Manager Mick Farrell will now finalise the rehabilitation plan for Ben."
Rugby General Manager Kris Radlinski said:
"It was important that the Club internally reviewed the incident that took place involving Ben Flower back in October. It was an incident that the Wigan Club could not defend. We fully supported the RFL's ruling for a six month ban for Ben but also needed to reflect on what damage was done to the Wigan Club. We are a Club with a rich history whose traditions and values are respected. We believe that these were damaged that night. We will work hard to restore our great reputation.
"Ben Flower let the Club down and most importantly the fans and his teammates. Regrettably, the 2014 Grand Final will always be remembered for this incident and we apologise for that and congratulate St Helens who were rightly crowned Champions on the night.
"Over the past month Ben has shown great regret and remorse. We will work hard with Ben over the next six months through his period of rehabilitation. This will involve junior coaching, work in the community and seeking advice from people who have had to overcome adversity. Ben will come back stronger and is very keen to prove to Wigan fans and to Rugby League fans in general that this was an out-of-character incident."
Ben Flower said:
"I fully accept this decision taken by Wigan. I deeply regret my actions and I am grateful for the support that my club has given me throughout this process.
"It is a relief to reach closure on the incident and I hope to move forward now and rebuild the trust of my club, team-mates and the Wigan fans."
http://www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... 00YX4Dw.99
Flower has been found guilty of Gross Misconduct due to violent conduct bringing into disrepute the Wigan club and the game of Rugby League.
In view of the player's previous record and his remorse, the Wigan Club has decided that he be fined 50% of his wages for a period of six months and must undergo a rehabilitation programme involving service with young people in the Community during his banned period as he prepares to rebuild his career. Three months of the fine will be suspended and subject to return during the next 12 months to his previous good record. This judgement was decided appropriate rather than summary dismissal which was possible from a Gross Misconduct verdict.
Chairman Ian Lenagan said:
"The Wigan Club has followed RFL protocol fully in conducting internal disciplinary action with Ben Flower following the incident at the Grand Final.
"We were extremely disappointed and angry at the actions of Ben Flower and stand in agreement with the Rugby Football League and the six month ban from playing which they handed down to Ben last month. There is no doubt that the reputation of this great Club has been damaged by this incident. This significant fine combined with the requirement for community service has been imposed to affirm Wigan's position that this is not the type of behaviour we want or expect from any of our players.
"Ben's action was totally unacceptable in Rugby League but was out of character and one for which he is deeply remorseful. It is our judgement that we should not dismiss him but should punish him financially and then support him through what will be a difficult rehabilitation period and a difficult return to playing.
Our Rugby General Manager Kris Radlinski, along with Head Coach Shaun Wane and Player Welfare Manager Mick Farrell will now finalise the rehabilitation plan for Ben."
Rugby General Manager Kris Radlinski said:
"It was important that the Club internally reviewed the incident that took place involving Ben Flower back in October. It was an incident that the Wigan Club could not defend. We fully supported the RFL's ruling for a six month ban for Ben but also needed to reflect on what damage was done to the Wigan Club. We are a Club with a rich history whose traditions and values are respected. We believe that these were damaged that night. We will work hard to restore our great reputation.
"Ben Flower let the Club down and most importantly the fans and his teammates. Regrettably, the 2014 Grand Final will always be remembered for this incident and we apologise for that and congratulate St Helens who were rightly crowned Champions on the night.
"Over the past month Ben has shown great regret and remorse. We will work hard with Ben over the next six months through his period of rehabilitation. This will involve junior coaching, work in the community and seeking advice from people who have had to overcome adversity. Ben will come back stronger and is very keen to prove to Wigan fans and to Rugby League fans in general that this was an out-of-character incident."
Ben Flower said:
"I fully accept this decision taken by Wigan. I deeply regret my actions and I am grateful for the support that my club has given me throughout this process.
"It is a relief to reach closure on the incident and I hope to move forward now and rebuild the trust of my club, team-mates and the Wigan fans."
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Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:52 pm
I wonder if he felt like doing to IL what he did to the little shit that caused all the trouble.That should be the end of the matter as far as the media are concerned.We have done more than enough grovelling to a media that did not give a damned about rugby league on any other day.
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:44 pm
I just cant wait to see our fans reaction on his first match back - They'd better be on their feet giving the man a round of applause with me!!
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:50 pm
One thing is certain when his contract is up he will leave. Well done IL for getting rid of another player.
This is harsh he is been punished twice for the same incident which is wrong. I hope this is not how we manage to get Mossop in under the cap by not paying a player fully for 3 months. We did something similar a few years ago and got done for breaking the spirit of the cap. This feels the same for me no need for the club to punish him it was for the RFL disciplinary to sort out and not the media and IL. As it was on the field of play and not off.
This is harsh he is been punished twice for the same incident which is wrong. I hope this is not how we manage to get Mossop in under the cap by not paying a player fully for 3 months. We did something similar a few years ago and got done for breaking the spirit of the cap. This feels the same for me no need for the club to punish him it was for the RFL disciplinary to sort out and not the media and IL. As it was on the field of play and not off.
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:06 pm
Could it be the same thing we did back then but to avoid getting athe same come back the club have used the disciplinary as a smoke screen, very sly if it isthegimble wrote:One thing is certain when his contract is up he will leave. Well done IL for getting rid of another player.
This is harsh he is been punished twice for the same incident which is wrong. Is this how we manage to get Mossop in under the cap by not paying a player fully for 3 months. We did something similar a few years ago and got done for breaking the spirit of the cap. This feels the same for me no need for the club to punish him it was for the RFL disciplinary to sort out and not the media and IL. As it was on the field of play and not off.
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:40 pm
Regarding LH I agree completely. Can't believe he's got away scot-free from all this. It reeked then and it still reeks now.KOOCH wrote:I wonder if he felt like doing to IL what he did to the little shit that caused all the trouble.That should be the end of the matter as far as the media are concerned.We have done more than enough grovelling to a media that did not give a damned about rugby league on any other day.
Regarding his stripped wages, I actually think he's done pretty well out it. How can they pay him? While I understand what and why he did what he did, he should have left it at one punch. Perhaps he was surprised at how soft LH is. Let's face it, you don't throw cheap-shots willy-nilly, unless you can handle yourself. Had BF suffered a broken cheek bone or something similar, then would he have got a Terry Newton style ban?
I think he'll be delighted he's only lost 3 months of 1/2 pay and will be at the club for many more years to come.
Re: Flower stripped of wages
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:45 pm
How can you say he has been charged twice for the same crime and it's not fair? Of course wigan was going to investigate it he has breach club rules/policies.
If you hit somebody in your work would you not expect your employer and the police to take action?
If you hit somebody in your work would you not expect your employer and the police to take action?