Is Betts doing such a bad job?

[mario]

On friday night and most of the season we have been forced to field weaker sides than the ones Milly gets slated for putting out.When Millward has put these teams out, he has also failed to coach them to anything other than big defeats.Everybody agrees that Millward is a great coach,so if he can't do it, what makes people think Betts should?
Think about the players we were missing on friday that should have been in our starting line up at the start of the season.
Radders,Carney,Orr,Tickle,hock,o'loughlin,Davico and FAZ.Put this together with Mos' poor signings. Is Denis doing such a bad job?
I'd happily give ANY superleague club a 10 point start if they were missing 8 players from their first
17.
I'd even let their coach chose them.

[we_need_a_coach]

Yes he is !!!!!!!!!!!

[mario]

W.A.N.C
WHY?

[craigbeck]

Denis is doing the best he can with a young inexperience side. I hope he does not become the scapegoat for all the injuries that have dragged the team down this season.

[Exiled Wiganer]

I am with Mario to an extent. We have been stuffed by injuries and the sale of Faz. I am not sure Denis is the best man to develop what we have, simply through his inexperience, though.

[GeoffN]

Exactly right, Mario. I've been saying this all season - our starting squad would have been a match for anyone, had we ever been able to field it. I, and many others, felt that we were probably one prop short, but other than that we'd certainly have been competitive.
Sides can lose 2 or 3 players at a time, without suffering too much, but any more than that (under this 20/20 rule) and any squad will suffer.
Faz's leaving is a "red herring" since he would still be out injured anyway, even if he wasn't going.

Rads, Dallas, Vaealiki, Aspinwall, Carney, Orr, Moran, Seuseu, Newton, Davico, Farrell, Tickle, O'Loughlin.
Hock, Sculthorpe, Wild, Brown

as a starting 17.

Godwin, Hansen, Beswick, Allen, Colbon, Hargreaves, Coyle, Melling and Prescott in reserve.

Looked pretty much OK to me!

[warrior till i die]

now when and if they are all fit i could think of this squad which wouldnt do a bad job..

rads,dallas,aspinwall,vaealiki,carney,orr,moran,seu seu,newton,sculthorpe,guisset,hansen,tickle subs godwin,brown,wild,mcdonald. That would be a match for the top 6 the problem is getting them all fit.

[MrsLam]

Do you see what we mean WNAC.

A detailed thorough message is posted with a question and all you say is "yes" without even thinking of the situation in hand, the players or management. You tell us why it is Dennis Betts fault that over the last few years we have not signed many experienced players that are actually playing rather injured this season? Come on, we are ALL awaiting your experienced, older "I've seen the best Wigan team EVER" response.

[robjoenz]

As another point... a few people have posted that we need a more experienced coach to get the most out of the inexperienced players.

Can anyone explain exactly what this means?

Having watched every Wigan game this season the main thing I have noticed is that we make loads of stupid errors, now I can't see how any different type of coaching will change this, unless of course Denis is teaching them to catch the ball with clenched fists, but I ver much doubt that.

Going back to Marios initial point, Saint Helens were beaten 54-8 by Bradford and they still had some quality in there in the likes of Gleeson and Wilkin. The squad is very much comparable to the one which Wigan have been forced to field in the past few weeks yet our greatest defeat was 40-8 also at Odsal. I can only conclude that having a top coach doesn't really count for much if you have a severely weakened squad.

As with MrsLam I do hope that these WNAC and co. will read and give a sensible response to these well supported arguements because I am interested to hear why they think things are so different.

[ChrisA]

He has nothing to work with we are poor team, but hes not the man to get the best out of them because he has no experience of dealing with situations like this.