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O'Loughlin says he doesn't regret his decision making during the game.

"Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it," O'Loughlin said.

"We went with the flow and took the two. That's sport. It's gutting whenever you lose a final and this is no different. We did a lot in the second half to claw our way back into it and get our nose in front.

Tad worried he thinks the 2 pointer was still the correct decision and/or he lacked the bravery to back his team to go for the kill and 6 points.

Same mistake made against St Helens 2 weeks earlier.

My opinion (and it is mine) is that it shows a worrying lack of confidence in your team mates to open your opponents up so close to the line, or keep them pegged down for the 6 tackles

Leeds had exactly the same opportunity and did not kick for goal but continued to exert pressure. Wigan (or more importantly Lockers) bottled it

Said at the time it was a 50-50 call and I wouldn't go back to it to blame anyome if it was wrong in hindsight. Yeah you can say we could have got 6 and put the pressure on, but we could have kicked to the corner and conceeded a breakaway try too. Not a gamebreaker IMO, plenty of examples where taking the two was the right thing to do and plenty where it wasn't.

If we were winning by 6 or 4 at a push then the 2 would take it to a converted try or at least a converted try plus 2 more.

To take the two at that stage of the game to create a 4 point lead given our improvement in the 2nd half was a disaster call.

I have been watching closely in the Super 8s and one thing we lack is composure and the ability to score at times. So many times we kick early, so many times we fail to get repeat sets and the times we do (St Helens) we just do nothing.

Taking the 2 was probably the wrong call, Lockers made the wrong decision.However to say he lacks bravery or courage is out of order.I wonder if these people who say he lacks bravery would tell him so to his face.I think not.

This may relate to something said in the "Wane Out" thread in that on-field leadership seems lacking.

The team lacks direction generally and I do wonder if Lockers position as captain is effectively undermined by a too prescriptive game plan and that this leads to a general lack of confidence within the team to show some self belief.

DaveO wrote:This may relate to something said in the "Wane Out" thread in that on-field leadership seems lacking.

The team lacks direction generally and I do wonder if Lockers position as captain is effectively undermined by a too prescriptive game plan and that this leads to a general lack of confidence within the team to show some self belief.

If you think back to the days of Andy Farrell, Adrian Lamb et al, then no, we don't have an effective leader on the pitch.

BriH wrote:

DaveO wrote:This may relate to something said in the "Wane Out" thread in that on-field leadership seems lacking.

The team lacks direction generally and I do wonder if Lockers position as captain is effectively undermined by a too prescriptive game plan and that this leads to a general lack of confidence within the team to show some self belief.

If you think back to the days of Andy Farrell, Adrian Lamb et al, then no, we don't have an effective leader on the pitch.

Lockers got a lot of initial negativity towards his performance in the team and was often compared to Andy Farrell.

He isn't a vocal captain like Farrell was. What I think we learned to understand is that Lockers as a captain was through the level of professionalism he shows and leading by example. He used to do his talking on the pitch often coming up with good drives, offloads, link up play as he sometimes acted like a 6. But now as he is getting older, his play isn't doing the talking for him anymore. He is very much so on the decline and maybe is finding it hard to play like a captain and lead from the front.

BriH wrote:

DaveO wrote:This may relate to something said in the "Wane Out" thread in that on-field leadership seems lacking.

The team lacks direction generally and I do wonder if Lockers position as captain is effectively undermined by a too prescriptive game plan and that this leads to a general lack of confidence within the team to show some self belief.

If you think back to the days of Andy Farrell, Adrian Lamb et al, then no, we don't have an effective leader on the pitch.

With all those leaders what did they win together. Apart from 1998 gf and 1 cc from 1998 on we won little until 2010.

I would have gone for the 6 points personally because I felt at that point if we'd got an 8 point lead the games was over. Having said that I have no real problem with taking the two, just a bit of a "what if?" feeling.

I think at times people just find fault, to some on here we've been too expansive with "waneball" and shift plays in our half and when we show some conservatism they get fingers pointed too.