MM vs other hookers

[nathan_rugby]

Just comparing MM to other hookers in the league. I know stats do not tell you anything and also MM plays a lot less minutes, but it makes for interesting reading. This is comparing MM, Milner, Henderson, Robinson, Houghton, Aiton, Roby and Clark.

Tackles - Houghton, Roby, Henderson. Worst = MM, Robinson

Marker Tackles - Houghton, Roby, Henderson. Worst = MM, Clark

Missed - Aiton, Milner, Roby. Worst = Henderson, MM

Tackles Bust - Clark, Roby, Henderson. Worst = MM Robinson.

Carries - Roby, Henderson, Clark. Worst = Milner, MM

Meters - Clark, Roby, Henderson (2100-2500)Worst = MM, Robinson, Milner all below (1350)

Clean Breaks - Roby, Clark, Houghton. Worst - MM, Robinson

Dummy run - Roby, Aiton, Robinson. Worst - Milner, Clark

Errors - MM in Middle
Avg gain - MM in middle
Penalties - MM in middle

Offloads - Roby, Henderson, Clark. Worst - MM, Robinson

Stats do not tell you anything. MM hits hard in defence and does force some errors but they are very worrying.

[cpwigan]

Gone backwards in many respects since Madge left.

[Wigan_forever1985]

Agreed

Think wane focuses too much on promoting aggression and mm is not concentrating on the other areas of his game.

[medlocke]

MM hits hard in defence and does force some errors

IMO the only reason he is loved by fans, that's why we need a good scooting hooker or an ageing Aussie with fantastic ball distribution to come of the bench and change things up, Powell is not good enough and never will be IMO

[nathan_rugby]

MM hits hard in defence and does force some errors

IMO the only reason he is loved by fans, that's why we need a good scooting hooker or an ageing Aussie with fantastic ball distribution to come of the bench and change things up, Powell is not good enough and never will be IMO

I would honestly have a lot of hookers over MM. However it may be pointless as the game plan employed by Wane may make even the best of hookers look average at best.

Look how Clark has gone from MOS to his performances at Wire.

I think MM suits Wane's game plan and idea. He has a lot more to offer but isn't having the opportunity. However, his creativity and distribution and scooting really doesn't offer much of a threat.

[cpwigan]

Under Madge, MM was developing a kicking game which is a great bonus for any team from hooker. If you play in and around the play of the ball he is capable of scooting, running plays with forwards. As it stands a Wigan hooker simply passes long to move the ball sideways.

MM never needed any development, defence wise, he came to Wigan with fantastic and tough defence.

It would be great to know why he is subbed, is he carrying an injury, not fit enough to do 80 or simply a tactic?

[josie andrews]

Gone backwards in many respects since Madge left.

Didn't take long to bring 'Madge' into the equation!!

I don't buy that anyway.

[josie andrews]

Agreed

Think wane focuses too much on promoting aggression and mm is not concentrating on the other areas of his game.

That's another topic that's going to be 'battered' to death the 'aggression' theme.

How do you know that's true? Are you privy to training?

Just because he uses the wrong words to describe what he wants, aggression, everyone thinks Wane wants a team of fighters which is as far from the truth. He doesn't want a team to be bullied.

Have you seen the amount of aggression Peacock shows? He even looks the part of an aggressor! IMO

[cpwigan]

Gone backwards in many respects since Madge left.

Didn't take long to bring 'Madge' into the equation!!

I don't buy that anyway.

Was MM starting to kick from dummy half under Madge, was he working with his forwards playing off him close to the POTB under Madge?

Under Wane, hooker by and large defend and pass the ball long to halfback stood a fair distance from each other and from the hooker.

MM no longer play 80 minutes. When he cam to the the clu he was 3 or 3 in terms of fitness tests across the whole squad.

If you do not agree then say why not, say why you do not buy into it, otherwise what is the point.

[josie andrews]

Because every argument goes back to Madge. We all know you don't rate Wane so no matter how much this club wins or loses under him you will always find a reason to revert back to Madge or Jack Gibson!