EU ? Head to Head

[SJ]

BBC will broadcast a "In"-"Out " "exchange of opinions " at 8pm this evening

Should be interesting!

[SJ]

BBC will broadcast a "In"-"Out " "exchange of opinions " at 8pm this evening

Should be interesting!

between "call me Dave " and Nigel Farage



Sorry 9pm ITV

[Panchitta Marra]

Switzerland are a pretty good country not relying on the EU.
They seem to have their house in order, have good connections with other European countries and worldwide. All managed by themselves, and no reason why Britain can't also achieve this.

[Owd Codger]

Switzerland are a pretty good country not relying on the EU.
They seem to have their house in order, have good connections with other European countries and worldwide. All managed by themselves, and no reason why Britain can't also achieve this.

Unlike us,they also harness water far better to provide cheaper energy on which the country runs efficiently.

[DaveO]

Switzerland are a pretty good country not relying on the EU.
They seem to have their house in order, have good connections with other European countries and worldwide. All managed by themselves, and no reason why Britain can't also achieve this.

They, Like Norway, are signed up to the open border Shetzen agreement and have signed up for free movement of Labour in order to access the single market. They also contribute to the EU budget for the same reason and obey the rules and regulations the single market imposes (though have no say in making those rules).

Is that what you are wishing for?

If we leave it is what you will get anyway.

There is no way on Earth the EU will compromise one of the fundamental defining principles of the single market - the free movement of labour.

Let anyone in who doesn't agree to that and the whole thing collapses so it will not happen.

At the moment we have those well kniown "workers friends", Gove, Bojo and Farage telling you we can have our cake and eat it. We can leave the EU and we will still get access to the single market without free movement of labour, without obeying the rules and without making a contribution.

Don't you think that sounds completely unrealistic from the word go?

If we leave here is how it will pan out:

1. EU tells us to accept free movement of labour or no access to single market.

2. Gove, Bojo and Farage howl at those nasty EU countries for insisting on this.

3. Eventually, they are forced to cave in and we end up where we are now, with free movement of labour and also obeying the rules and making a contribution.

4. Gove, Bojo and Farage plead they did their best but we just have to accept it.

5. They did however get their wish, we are out of the EU so they now set about merrily destroying your rights as a worker.

6. Gove, Bojo and Farage go to the pub to slap each other on the back as this was the plan all along.

Think this is fanciful or scaremongering? I think it's blindingly obvious that is what will happen.

[BriH]

Switzerland are a pretty good country not relying on the EU.
They seem to have their house in order, have good connections with other European countries and worldwide. All managed by themselves, and no reason why Britain can't also achieve this.

They, Like Norway, are signed up to the open border Shetzen agreement and have signed up for free movement of Labour in order to access the single market. They also contribute to the EU budget for the same reason and obey the rules and regulations the single market imposes (though have no say in making those rules).

Is that what you are wishing for?

I wish I could ask BoJo and his Merry Men "What's in it for you?"
Nigel Farage is the biggest hypocrite on earth. He hates the EU but he is a MEP!!! Quite happy to eat and drink his way through his £3000 per/month allowance.

If we leave it is what you will get anyway.

There is no way on Earth the EU will compromise one of the fundamental defining principles of the single market - the free movement of labour.

Let anyone in who doesn't agree to that and the whole thing collapses so it will not happen.

At the moment we have those well kniown "workers friends", Gove, Bojo and Farage telling you we can have our cake and eat it. We can leave the EU and we will still get access to the single market without free movement of labour, without obeying the rules and without making a contribution.

Don't you think that sounds completely unrealistic from the word go?

If we leave here is how it will pan out:

1. EU tells us to accept free movement of labour or no access to single market.

2. Gove, Bojo and Farage howl at those nasty EU countries for insisting on this.

3. Eventually, they are forced to cave in and we end up where we are now, with free movement of labour and also obeying the rules and making a contribution.

4. Gove, Bojo and Farage plead they did their best but we just have to accept it.

5. They did however get their wish, we are out of the EU so they now set about merrily destroying your rights as a worker.

6. Gove, Bojo and Farage go to the pub to slap each other on the back as this was the plan all along.

Think this is fanciful or scaremongering? I think it's blindingly obvious that is what will happen.

Well put DaveO.

[BriH]

Don't know what happened to my quote!

My comment is beginning 3rd para after "Is that what you are wishing for?"

[DaveO]

Don't know what happened to my quote!

My comment is beginning 3rd para after "Is that what you are wishing for?"

Looks like Josie fixed it for you!

Here is another little post brexit scenario for you.

One of the Brexit issues is Turkey joining the EU and the UK being over run with Turkish migrants.

OK, so we leave the EU.

With us out of the EU we have no veto on Turkey joining. So the rest of the EU decide that Turkey can join.

However in order to access the single market we have had to agree to free movement of labour.

Bingo! Britain overrun by Turkish migrants with us out of the EU unable to veto their entry.

The alternative is to remain in the EU and veto them joining.....

[Owd Codger]

We now have former politicians like Blair, Major and Kinnock running round the country in panic mode, saying that if we come out of the EU, it will break up the Union.

Hardly politicians of good repute, are they.

Blair, a Tory who called himself a Socialist and who apart from making himself a Millionaire,told blatant lies about Iraq having WMD's, and would not face the father of a soldier who was murdered along with five others by a mob with no weapons to protect themselves.

Major, a Prime Minister who will only be remembered for having a affair with Edwina Currie and depicted as a'Grey Man' on the television puppet show 'Spitting Image'

Kinnock, a leader of the labour party who made a fool of himself both on the beach at Brighton and again in Sheffield when he was under the impression that his party had won the General Election. Not to mention that his Wife is a MEP, so hardly surprising that he wants to stay in when she is on the gravy train.

The 'stay in' campaign is must be in desperate state to wheel out the above in order to convince people to vote for them.

[Owd Codger]

Don't know what happened to my quote!

My comment is beginning 3rd para after "Is that what you are wishing for?"

Looks like Josie fixed it for you!

Here is another little post brexit scenario for you.

One of the Brexit issues is Turkey joining the EU and the UK being over run with Turkish migrants.

OK, so we leave the EU.

With us out of the EU we have no veto on Turkey joining. So the rest of the EU decide that Turkey can join.

However in order to access the single market we have had to agree to free movement of labour.

Bingo! Britain overrun by Turkish migrants with us out of the EU unable to veto their entry.

The alternative is to remain in the EU and veto them joining.....

If we vote to come out, how can the people of Turkey access our country under the free movement of Labour and why do we need to stay in to veto their application when according to news information, other countries will carry out the veto and even if none do, how will they get in legally when they will need a visa to enter the country at passport control.

And if we vote to come out, surely many of those who already here from other European Union countries will either have to go back to their own countries as there would no longer 'free movement of labour' and they would need to have a visa to enter.

Finally, why are you so personally keen for people from other European Union countries being here?

Are you for example, renting out properties to them like many others who say we should stay in?