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Notice there was a piece in Wigan today about shorrocks being a future number 7 for us

however this bit angered me a little from wane

“He’s not the biggest, so he needs to get into the gym and have a good pre-season with us,”
why are we so obsessed with bulk? you look at the finest halves in the last decade or so;

thurston
lockyer
andrew johns

none of them were big, why do they need to be?

I dont personally think its coincidence that tomkins was never injured before he 'bulked up' he used to be made of elastic. Look at burrows - hardly ever injured
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What annoys me about that is that it infers Wane will still be here next season!

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He will be here next season :D
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Wigan_forever19​85​ wrote:Notice there was a piece in Wigan today about shorrocks being a future number 7 for us

however this bit angered me a little from wane

“He’s not the biggest, so he needs to get into the gym and have a good pre-season with us,”
why are we so obsessed with bulk? you look at the finest halves in the last decade or so;

thurston
lockyer
andrew johns

none of them were big, why do they need to be?

I dont personally think its coincidence that tomkins was never injured before he 'bulked up' he used to be made of elastic. Look at burrows - hardly ever injured
All are well above Shorrocks weight, Thurston and Lockyer over a stone heavier. If you compare Shorrocks with say Williams you will see that Williams is quite a bit stronger and that's what Wigan are looking for. Watch how many times Shorrocks almost breaks the tackle but just gets tackled. Shorocks missed the whole of pre-season due to his ACL injury so this coming pre one will be very important to him.
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I have really liked what I have seen from Shorrocks. He looks the part in a way that Hampshire didn't quite do, in my humble opinion. It makes sense to want him to be stronger. I thought Williams would play 7, though. Not that he is doing badly at 6. I think we will be much stronger with Williams and Shorrocks a year older, and Tommy sharing hooking duties with McIllorum. Indeed, a long break may well do Mac some good in the longer run.
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If a player is good enough he is big enough.
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No straw damn us wrote:
Wigan_forever19​85​ wrote:Notice there was a piece in Wigan today about shorrocks being a future number 7 for us

however this bit angered me a little from wane

“He’s not the biggest, so he needs to get into the gym and have a good pre-season with us,”
why are we so obsessed with bulk? you look at the finest halves in the last decade or so;

thurston
lockyer
andrew johns

none of them were big, why do they need to be?

I dont personally think its coincidence that tomkins was never injured before he 'bulked up' he used to be made of elastic. Look at burrows - hardly ever injured
All are well above Shorrocks weight, Thurston and Lockyer over a stone heavier. If you compare Shorrocks with say Williams you will see that Williams is quite a bit stronger and that's what Wigan are looking for. Watch how many times Shorrocks almost breaks the tackle but just gets tackled. Shorocks missed the whole of pre-season due to his ACL injury so this coming pre one will be very important to him.
I wouldn't say a stone is well above - and I'm not so sure strength and weight are a quality perticularly needed for a halfback. I've no issues with trying to be stronger but I think we are obsessed with bulking up players when we would be better served letting them play a fit version of their natural weights you don't have to be big to be strong.

Look at burrow he's 2 stone less than shorrocks, makes plenty breaks and plenty tackles and hardly injured. Injuries to me always seem to come once a player "bulks"
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Probably because Wane wants to utilise him more as a 9 than an out & out 7.
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Exiled Wiganer wrote:I have really liked what I have seen from Shorrocks. He looks the part in a way that Hampshire didn't quite do, in my humble opinion. It makes sense to want him to be stronger. I thought Williams would play 7, though. Not that he is doing badly at 6. I think we will be much stronger with Williams and Shorrocks a year older, and Tommy sharing hooking duties with McIllorum. Indeed, a long break may well do Mac some good in the longer run.
What makes you think that Tommy will play hooker? I think he will play halfback. If you watch him play for NZ Warriors you will see that he has still got it and he provides far more threat than Smith.
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I will be to your greater knowledge, as I do not watch any NRL. I thught he would play 9 as he played a fair bit there in the past. Tbh if he still holds down a place in the NZ Warriors side he will do a good job with us.
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