How poor is our attack?
Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:31 pm
Everyone perceives that our attack has been poor this season but only Cas and Wakefield have scored more points!
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Its perspective.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:Everyone perceives that our attack has been poor this season but only Cas and Wakefield have scored more points!
Well you know what they say there are lies, damned lies and statistics but even the stats tell you it has got worse for several seasons now.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:Everyone perceives that our attack has been poor this season but only Cas and Wakefield have scored more points!
No Dave, not statistics, facts. Wigan are now second highest try scorers behind Castleford. If the attack was THAT bad then this wouldn't be the case would it?DaveO wrote:Well you know what they say there are lies, damned lies and statistics but even the stats tell you it has got worse for several seasons now.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:Everyone perceives that our attack has been poor this season but only Cas and Wakefield have scored more points!
It's obvious to anyone who watches the matches that the attack is poor. It's down right awful within the last 20m and we seem devoid of guile and ideas close to the line and are easy to close down. The attack in this areas of the pitch is for me the biggest reason our attack has declined over recent seasons statistically as well as being perceived to be so by the fans.
With a bit more flair in that area I am sure we would have won several more matches this season and not be sat on a knife edge for a top four place.
Not true.cow yeds wrote:Looking at the league table we are the 6th highest scorers. only team above us with an inferior points for is saints.
Saying we are second covers up a multitude of sins. Cas scored 134 tries and kicked 120 goals. We scored 104 and kicked 68. Doesn't look so hot then does it?No straw damn us wrote:No Dave, not statistics, facts. Wigan are now second highest try scorers behind Castleford. If the attack was THAT bad then this wouldn't be the case would it?DaveO wrote:Well you know what they say there are lies, damned lies and statistics but even the stats tell you it has got worse for several seasons now.shaunedwardsfanclub wrote:Everyone perceives that our attack has been poor this season but only Cas and Wakefield have scored more points!
It's obvious to anyone who watches the matches that the attack is poor. It's down right awful within the last 20m and we seem devoid of guile and ideas close to the line and are easy to close down. The attack in this areas of the pitch is for me the biggest reason our attack has declined over recent seasons statistically as well as being perceived to be so by the fans.
With a bit more flair in that area I am sure we would have won several more matches this season and not be sat on a knife edge for a top four place.
You are quoting end of season Try volumes there vs almost end of season volumes - So we should on full season (end of super 8s) volumes be on circa 120 Tries (give or take!)Do you or do you not agree with me that our attack has looked devoid of ideas in the last 20m?
If you want some facts here are some.
Tries scored for Wigan:
2010 161
2011 150
2012 183
2013 159
2014 151
2015 112
2016 91
2017 104
Before 2010 under Noble we saw similar figures to what we see now. Paul Deacon left in 2015 when the tries scored fell off a cliff.
Anyone who doesn't think the attack has been poor for the last three seasons based on watching the actual games AND the statistics doesn't want to see.
The fact we are second to Cas (who scored 134 tries and kicked 120 goals v our 104 and 68) must be one of the most irrelevant statistics of all time including the fact it makes us sound better than we have been when you see how far away from them we actually are. It's why the only stat that matters reads P23 W20 L3 for Cas and P23 L10 W10 D3 for us.