Wf1985 you are still missing the point, so I will leave you with this, entertaining is fantastic but before to long when you don't win anything it becomes pointless and mute because ultimately all the greatest teams are renowned for winning things. How many teams can you name that are famous for entertaining but not winning? How many teams can you name that are famous for winning things and dominating their sport?Wigan_forever1985 wrote:I think you'll find a team that plays completely drab boring and poor to watch versions of any sport will not go down well with fans which in turn will reduce tickets, which in turn will reduce income, which in turn will reduce wages, which in turn will reduce player quailty which in turn will reduce quality more - you see where i am goingTrueBlueWarrior wrote:
Show me where I have said you cannot do this? I have actually said in an ideal world and very few teams achieve this but entertaining and winning the trophies is the pinnacle!
Remember this is elite level RL apparently and winning is EVERYTHING, if you can entertain at the same time then fantastic!
Like I have always said ask the Chairman, Coach, Staff, Players and Fans would they sacrifice their entertainment value for a GF win like Leeds, the answer is YES, in a heartbeat, again it is Elite level sport not a circus!
As for the LLS I totally agree with you but sadly for Cas no one cares about it and no one remembers the winners!!
Sport is about winning for the players of that sport, but the fans need more than that and to suggest otherwise is bonkers! The dictionary defintion of sport is;
Put it an easier way, imagine you had a boxer who had a punch so devastating that he only had to hit a guy once didnt matter who he was against he knocked them out. Now imagine after 30 fights, how many fans do you think would come see this "winning" boxer shelling out £30 a ticket to watch 10 seconds of action. By your logic he is doing everything asked of him by sport law to win.an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment.
I am a big support in winning being the thing that matters and if i play a sport i play to win by any means however people arent paying to see me play sport. Sport is about entertainment as much as it is about winning.
Another scenario
Magically genie says to two sets of supports
Team A - your team will play attractive fast free flowing rugby all season you will see epic tries and bravery beyond belief. However in the final game of the season you will come up short
Team B - you will play appalling rugby all season, you will drag games out grinding them without ever creating drama. You will lose far more games than you win and the ones you win you will scrape through. However you will stringa few results together right at the death of the season scrape through and win the last game of the season in unspectacular fashion
Now which set of fans buy a season ticket and which buy a ticket to old trafford?
Like I said if Cas keep entertaining but bottling it and winning nothing trust me, fans will stop watching, coaches will move on, players will leave etc. See where I am going with this? Why? Because they want to WIN trophies!!
Nothing is better for a club than winning trophies!
Who are the 2 biggest clubs in SL? Why? Because they entertain or because they have the most prestigious history of winning trophies?
Who are the 2 biggest clubs in English football? is it because they entertain or win things?
Who is the biggest name in boxing? Does he always entertain or is he 50 and 0 with numerous titles?
No need to go on, ELITE level sport is about WINNING, ENTERTAINING as well is a massive bonus and lovely if it happens!