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Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:47 pm
by Wes
DaveO wrote:
Wes wrote:You will see Lomax and Barba chopping and changing during games between 1 and 6 as they see fit. They will be given the freedom to alternate at will.
That is not the same as the coach forcing the pivots to change by a substitution bang on 20 minutes.....
I gave an example of a FB moving to HB which I believe was the question.

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:51 pm
by southernpie
DaveO wrote:
That is not the same as the coach forcing the pivots to change by a substitution bang on 20 minutes.....
Nail......Head

This is my concern, it will then only take a few games for all the other coaches to realise and come up with a counter ploy. I hope Waney doesn't substitute to a regular pattern, but is able to make changes as the game dictates.

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:59 pm
by fozzieskem
As a tactic in the right circumstances then it should work, but he does like a change on the 20 min mark doesn't he?

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:46 pm
by pedro
southernpie wrote:
DaveO wrote:
That is not the same as the coach forcing the pivots to change by a substitution bang on 20 minutes.....
Nail......Head

This is my concern, it will then only take a few games for all the other coaches to realise and come up with a counter ploy. I hope Waney doesn't substitute to a regular pattern, but is able to make changes as the game dictates.
thats one thing he always does

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:11 am
by No straw damn us
fozzieskem wrote:As a tactic in the right circumstances then it should work, but he does like a change on the 20 min mark doesn't he?
And what coach doesn't? Maybe, just maybe there's a bit of sports science involved!! I'll start a new thread and we can track substitutions by different coaches and tat what time in the games. Could be interesting.

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:41 pm
by Panchitta Marra
No straw damn us wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:As a tactic in the right circumstances then it should work, but he does like a change on the 20 min mark doesn't he?
And what coach doesn't? Maybe, just maybe there's a bit of sports science involved!! I'll start a new thread and we can track substitutions by different coaches and tat what time in the games. Could be interesting.
Just said the same on another thread NSDU, maybe it is down to sports science and condition maintenance of players.

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:33 pm
by southernpie
No straw damn us wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:As a tactic in the right circumstances then it should work, but he does like a change on the 20 min mark doesn't he?
And what coach doesn't? Maybe, just maybe there's a bit of sports science involved!! I'll start a new thread and we can track substitutions by different coaches and tat what time in the games. Could be interesting.
I would be interested to see the results of that, to me it is something many coaches do, I think Mick Potter? with the fearsome foursome at Bradford was amongst the first to do it regularly, but from a sports science point of view, surely each player is an individual and they are tracked these days by all sorts of GPS systems etc so different players should be "rested" best at different times.

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:51 pm
by markill
southernpie wrote: I would be interested to see the results of that, to me it is something many coaches do, I think Mick Potter? with the fearsome foursome at Bradford was amongst the first to do it regularly, but from a sports science point of view, surely each player is an individual and they are tracked these days by all sorts of GPS systems etc so different players should be "rested" best at different times.
Matthew Elliott maybe?

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:02 pm
by josie andrews
markill wrote:
southernpie wrote: I would be interested to see the results of that, to me it is something many coaches do, I think Mick Potter? with the fearsome foursome at Bradford was amongst the first to do it regularly, but from a sports science point of view, surely each player is an individual and they are tracked these days by all sorts of GPS systems etc so different players should be "rested" best at different times.
Matthew Elliott maybe?
I thought that also! :)

Re: Pivot Interchanges

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:00 pm
by DaveO
No straw damn us wrote:
fozzieskem wrote:As a tactic in the right circumstances then it should work, but he does like a change on the 20 min mark doesn't he?
And what coach doesn't? Maybe, just maybe there's a bit of sports science involved!! I'll start a new thread and we can track substitutions by different coaches and tat what time in the games. Could be interesting.
Unless you know what was going on in the all the games at the time as in which team was on top, has someone just taken a heavy knock etc it's not going to tell you much. The accusation levied against Wane is he subs by the clock regardless of what is going on or who is tired.