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Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:36 pm
by josie andrews
Liam Marshall made it 40 tries in 40 Wigan Appperances in last nights win over Leeds.
In comparison after first 40 Wigan games....
Billy Boston 45
Martin Offiah 44
Johnny Ring 41
Trevor Lake 40
Josh Charnley 37
Dom Manfredi 36
Joe Burgess 34
Brian Nordgren 33
Jason Robinson 13
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:08 pm
by moto748
In some exalted company there.
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:46 pm
by wall_of_voodoo
Looking at Jason Robinson's stats they don't look impressive. However he wasn't signed as a winger but played stand off in Wigan's academy at that time. John Monie didn't really like bringing in inexperienced players so didn't trust him to be able to handle his true position so he made a name for himself as a winger - rest is history
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:27 pm
by southportcdm
Very impressive stats for Liam even though it's difficult to compare different eras. Bearing in mind that Offiah was a fully developed player when we signed him and he played in a very dominant side Liam's figure look good. The one who interests me most is Johnny Ring who has a phenomenal record yet is hardly ever mentioned as one of our greats like Billy. Can any of our older/better informed fans explain why this is the case please?
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:53 am
by Wiganer Ted
Obviously I didn't see Johnny Ring play but his record is exceptional. My Father said he was the fastest wingman he'd ever seen, he didn't live to Offiah. Said Ring was the best he'd seen until we signed Billy. I don't think Billy was as fast as Offiah but his footwork was brilliant. He could beat a man inside out and did it all the time.
One thing I'll say in Liam Marshall's favour is that Billy and Offiah had great centres playing alongside them. Gildart is good but nowhere as good yet as Eric Ashton who was Billy Boston's centre. Nor as good as Gene Miles, Dean Bell or Gary Connolly who were Offiah's centres.
Marshall's effort is very good and I do hope he continues to improve as anything is possible for a wingman with his pace.
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 1:49 pm
by southportcdm
Thanks Wiganer Ted, I thought Johnny Ring must have been a real flier to have a try scoring record like that and over many seasons too. There more you think about it the more impressive Liam's record so far looks.
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:41 pm
by SJ
Wiganer Ted wrote:Obviously I didn't see Johnny Ring play but his record is exceptional. My Father said he was the fastest wingman he'd ever seen, he didn't live to Offiah. Said Ring was the best he'd seen until we signed Billy. I don't think Billy was as fast as Offiah but his footwork was brilliant. He could beat a man inside out and did it all the time.
One thing I'll say in Liam Marshall's favour is that Billy and Offiah had great centres playing alongside them. Gildart is good but nowhere as good yet as Eric Ashton who was Billy Boston's centre. Nor as good as Gene Miles, Dean Bell or Gary Connolly who were Offiah's centres.
Marshall's effort is very good and I do hope he continues to improve as anything is possible for a wingman with his pace.
My father to said Ring was the best winger Wigan ever had and he lived to see Offiah play. Good to see Liam in the pantheon of Wigan greatsThink he was a local lad who eventually lived in Lower st Stepen street. Don't know where that came from memory not what it was.
Ring not Liam
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:56 pm
by Wiganer Ted
Johnny Ring was Welsh.
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 7:49 pm
by Firestarter
I always thought mark preston was faster than offiah....... he scored some great tries for us but we got rid coz he couldnt tackle........ then we signed offiah lol
Re: Pinched from Bilko re Liam Marshall
Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:30 am
by Wintergreen
Firestarter wrote:I always thought mark preston was faster than offiah....... he scored some great tries for us but we got rid coz he couldnt tackle........ then we signed offiah lol
At the risk of thread drift, I think he was about the same. He didn't have Offiah's "eye for the line" though.
Fastest player we have had, iirc was a New Zealander called Gary Henley-Smith.