Marshall
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:57 am
Possible ACL!
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To be fair, even with Marshall, Burgess and possibly Manfredi out we still have Davies plus Escare, Mullen, Forsyth and Brown as potential wingers, and Gildart or Sarginson could fill in there.
Time to give Mullen another shot on the left wing then? He has never let the side down when he's played before,.EagleEyePie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:38 pm
To be fair, even with Marshall, Burgess and possibly Manfredi out we still have Davies plus Escare, Mullen, Forsyth and Brown as potential wingers, and Gildart or Sarginson could fill in there.
Here we have ladies and gentlemen one of the reason we are struggling with the cap when fans think the likes of Forsyth are anything better than a championship player. Swinton standard and keep him thereEagleEyePie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:38 pm To be fair, even with Marshall, Burgess and possibly Manfredi out we still have Davies plus Escare, Mullen, Forsyth and Brown as potential wingers, and Gildart or Sarginson could fill in there.
You think fans are responsible for salary cap management?wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:12 pmHere we have ladies and gentlemen one of the reason we are struggling with the cap when fans think the likes of Forsyth are anything better than a championship player. Swinton standard and keep him thereEagleEyePie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:38 pm To be fair, even with Marshall, Burgess and possibly Manfredi out we still have Davies plus Escare, Mullen, Forsyth and Brown as potential wingers, and Gildart or Sarginson could fill in there.
EagleEyePie wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:00 pmYou think fans are responsible for salary cap management?wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:12 pm
Here we have ladies and gentlemen one of the reason we are struggling with the cap when fans think the likes of Forsyth are anything better than a championship player. Swinton standard and keep him there
Also, 'Swinton standard' is probably what you'd expect for someone who is 6th, maybe 7th choice winger (and 4th choice centre). Mind you, on form he's better than Hankinson.
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I think you're misunderstanding the cap. Most of the players we have in 'reserve' wont count on the salary cap unless they play a game, so there can be benefits in keeping hold of promising young players who no longer qualify for the Under 19's and then loaning them out or sending them on dual registration. If they are loaned out, they don't count on the cap, whether they are among the top 25 earners or not. So players like Josh Woods, Caine Barnes, Samy Kibula, James Worthington, Callum Field etc aren't counting towards the salary cap and won't unless they play a first team game. Clearly there's not as much leeway as some people think as playing these type of fringe players is what led the club to request cap dispensation in 2017.wall_of_voodoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:07 pm Where did I post that fans are directly responsible for the salary cap mismanagement?, That will always be the owners responsibility and you know that as well as I do.
What I am saying is that when someone thinks the likes of Forsyth and Brown are good enough to be on the wing for Wigan, then you are accepting the mediocre players who give cameo appearances once or twice a season justification to them being kept on. Which the owner does.
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We then have the current scenario were half our squad is out on dual reg or loan and we haven't the ability to recruit top quality players due to the club being at the cap limit. Are you happy with that?
Escare is not a winger either as you will be aware if you watch the team, so using the square peg into round hole approach to player selection is pathetic. Where you one of those suggesting Escare as a halfback just to get him into the team?
Wing is a specialist position and their is palpable difference between someone "filling in" and a real genuine winger. So if Marshall/Manfredi and Burgess are out that leaves us only Davies as the current first team experienced winger with about 20 players fans can suggest as "filling in"
Now I don't care 6th or nth choice. Fact is our squad is over burgeoning with players that should not be kept on for the simple reason of a non-existent reserve league. We need quality not quantity and the team as it currently performs reflects that lack
As for Hankinson, He has played 3 games for Swinton since his eye injury ruled him out last season. Is he good enough? Probably not, time will tell if he is another cheap recruit but the caveat is that Forsyth has been at Wigan a lot longer without showing any glimpse to suggest he should get a chance in the first team