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Forward Pack
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:59 pm
by shaunedwardsfanclub
They should be taken to court under the Trade Descriptions Act.
We have young lads who are putting more into it than the seasoned pros. We were far better in the first half with Smithies and Partington.
Tommy looked shot, Benny looked injured, Bullock has faded, Isa is poor, T is the same and Lockers looks past his sell buy date. I can't remember Lockers driving the ball in today.
We need major surgery, the powers that be have got to be ruthless.
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:46 pm
by Mickw
Spot on
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:02 am
by moto748
TT did his 'one good run per game' thing again, and as you say, most of the rest look no better.
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:22 am
by fozzieskem
moto748 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:02 am
TT did his 'one good run per game' thing again, and as you say, most of the rest look no better.
That is weird as you say he did that run after that nothing,sums his Wigan career up I suppose
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:26 pm
by pedro
Softest pack in the league, our 2006 pack would do these men
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:12 pm
by EagleEyePie
I feel sorry for Lam. He obviously wants to change the style of play a little and presumably that would include playing a more conventional style where the props have a significant role in carrying the ball up the field. Unfortunately he's inherited a side where our props are fairly ineffective at making the hard yards in that manner. We're a champion side without a champion front row. Wane's style made much greater use of the back row, but we've let the best back row in the competition leave, while our other back row forwards have been injured.
So not only has Lam not really been able to get more out of our front row (because they aren't particularly good), but he also hasn't been able to get the players to revert to Shaun Wane's style because we've had a makeshift back row.
That's one reason why I can't be too critical of Lam at this moment in time. The front row we've had to call upon most often (Bullock, Navarrete, Tautai, Partington) isn't Super League quality, experienced players like Clubb and Isa aren't good enough and key players like Lockers, Flower and Faz have been frequently injured.
The club needs to make changes in the pack, but it seems none will be made this year, so it's likely to be an uphill struggle all the way.
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:08 pm
by East Stand Faithful
EagleEyePie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:12 pm
I feel sorry for Lam. He obviously wants to change the style of play a little and presumably that would include playing a more conventional style where the props have a significant role in carrying the ball up the field. Unfortunately he's inherited a side where our props are fairly ineffective at making the hard yards in that manner. We're a champion side without a champion front row. Wane's style made much greater use of the back row, but we've let the best back row in the competition leave, while our other back row forwards have been injured.
So not only has Lam not really been able to get more out of our front row (because they aren't particularly good), but he also hasn't been able to get the players to revert to Shaun Wane's style because we've had a makeshift back row.
That's one reason why I can't be too critical of Lam at this moment in time. The front row we've had to call upon most often (Bullock, Navarrete, Tautai, Partington) isn't Super League quality, experienced players like Clubb and Isa aren't good enough and key players like Lockers, Flower and Faz have been frequently injured.
The club needs to make changes in the pack, but it seems none will be made this year, so it's likely to be an uphill struggle all the way.
Good post I think our pack is awful. Needs a complete revamp. Lam is not to blame for this mess.
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:36 pm
by nathan_rugby
Many on here, myself included, thought that Wane's style of play was detrimental to our forwards. I.e. No running in pairs, leg drives, offloads, hitting the gaps/angles...
Was he adapting his style to the players he had or has Wane and now Lam missed a trick
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:39 pm
by Firestarter
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Many on here, myself included, thought that Wane's style of play was detrimental to our forwards. I.e. No running in pairs, leg drives, offloads, hitting the gaps/angles...
Was he adapting his style to the players he had or has Wane and now Lam missed a trick
its a good point...... i wudda loved lam to come earlier( when wane was here) and just concentrate on our attack..... maybe would have made a difference....... we will probably never know
Re: Forward Pack
Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:42 pm
by nathan_rugby
Firestarter wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:39 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:36 pm
Many on here, myself included, thought that Wane's style of play was detrimental to our forwards. I.e. No running in pairs, leg drives, offloads, hitting the gaps/angles...
Was he adapting his style to the players he had or has Wane and now Lam missed a trick
its a good point...... i wudda loved lam to come earlier( when wane was here) and just concentrate on our attack..... maybe would have made a difference....... we will probably never know
What evidence do we have that Lam is a good attacking coach?
Biggest losses we had was Deacon and Harris. I distinctly remember noticeable changes to our attack.