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Wigan_forever1985 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:38 am
Firestarter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:48 am Do wigan not train to
Last longer? They have done in the past..... its a marathon not a sprint...... just look at last season when saints tired big time....... be very very interesting to see how things panout as the season comes to an end
Normally i would agree but in those instances we had one of the most highly regarded fitness coaches in UK sport - so you assume yes he had a plan

we now have an ex player who did it for the under 19's - so its hard to see that this is some for of masterplan

Of course Zak is going to say they are fit, if anything that makes me feel like they know they arent fit. Its like the pre season which is always the hardest preseason ever.

For me the biggest issue at Wigan is Rads, he needs to go, whichever way you cut it things come back to him. He is in charge of recruitment and retention both have been abysmal. Whatever you think of Edwards the clubs amateurish management allowed the situation to happen easily for Edwards - if he had a contract it would of been a lot harder for him to go back on that. Constant jobs for the boys is watering down the talent in the club.

For me the backroom/management needs as big an overhaul as your playing team.
thats why i stated it will be interesting when the season gets to the important part....... im gonna be very disappointed if we seem tired , especially after all the injured players return
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Wigan_forever1985 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:38 am
Normally i would agree but in those instances we had one of the most highly regarded fitness coaches in UK sport - so you assume yes he had a plan

we now have an ex player who did it for the under 19's - so its hard to see that this is some for of masterplan

Of course Zak is going to say they are fit, if anything that makes me feel like they know they aren't fit. Its like the pre season which is always the hardest preseason ever.

For me the biggest issue at Wigan is Rads, he needs to go, whichever way you cut it things come back to him. He is in charge of recruitment and retention both have been abysmal. Whatever you think of Edwards the clubs amateurish management allowed the situation to happen easily for Edwards - if he had a contract it would of been a lot harder for him to go back on that. Constant jobs for the boys is watering down the talent in the club.

For me the backroom/management needs as big an overhaul as your playing team.
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Firestarter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:48 am
Wigan_forever1985 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:38 am
Firestarter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:48 am Do wigan not train to
Last longer? They have done in the past..... its a marathon not a sprint...... just look at last season when saints tired big time....... be very very interesting to see how things panout as the season comes to an end


For me the biggest issue at Wigan is Rads, he needs to go, whichever way you cut it things come back to him. He is in charge of recruitment and retention both have been abysmal. Whatever you think of Edwards the clubs amateurish management allowed the situation to happen easily for Edwards - if he had a contract it would of been a lot harder for him to go back on that. Constant jobs for the boys is watering down the talent in the club.

For me the backroom/management needs as big an overhaul as your playing team.
thats why i stated it will be interesting when the season gets to the important part....... im gonna be very disappointed if we seem tired , especially after all the injured players return
Not trying to start a whole Edwards debate but it takes 2 seconds and google to find out Verbal contracts/agreement are legally binding in the UK.
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Caboosegg wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:14 am
Firestarter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:48 am
Wigan_forever1985 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:38 am



For me the biggest issue at Wigan is Rads, he needs to go, whichever way you cut it things come back to him. He is in charge of recruitment and retention both have been abysmal. Whatever you think of Edwards the clubs amateurish management allowed the situation to happen easily for Edwards - if he had a contract it would of been a lot harder for him to go back on that. Constant jobs for the boys is watering down the talent in the club.

For me the backroom/management needs as big an overhaul as your playing team.
thats why i stated it will be interesting when the season gets to the important part....... im gonna be very disappointed if we seem tired , especially after all the injured players return
Not trying to start a whole Edwards debate but it takes 2 seconds and google to find out Verbal contracts/agreement are legally binding in the UK.
But I’d say,and this is just my opinion,in sport it’s always better to get something written down if possible,even then it’s about as useful as a chocolate teapot
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Caboosegg wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 7:14 am
Firestarter wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:48 am
Wigan_forever1985 wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:38 am



For me the biggest issue at Wigan is Rads, he needs to go, whichever way you cut it things come back to him. He is in charge of recruitment and retention both have been abysmal. Whatever you think of Edwards the clubs amateurish management allowed the situation to happen easily for Edwards - if he had a contract it would of been a lot harder for him to go back on that. Constant jobs for the boys is watering down the talent in the club.

For me the backroom/management needs as big an overhaul as your playing team.
thats why i stated it will be interesting when the season gets to the important part....... im gonna be very disappointed if we seem tired , especially after all the injured players return
Not trying to start a whole Edwards debate but it takes 2 seconds and google to find out Verbal contracts/agreement are legally binding in the UK.
Only someone completely niave would rely on a verbal agreement. Might be binding but you try proving it - Edwards may say that things were promised to him during that agreement that were then reneged on which again is incredibly difficult to prove

there is absolutely no excuse for not having a formal contract in place none at all
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Lets be honest here, he looked at the team and the squad he was inheriting and thought my whole reputation could be put at stake with this lot . End of story
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Edwards pissed us all off but you can understand his reasonings as this “season” Trudges on from shambles to another
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Rads and IL are to blame for the edwards situation full stop. Im not saying edwards wouldnt of still tried to get out the deal but they opened the door for him to walk through.

Also what has happened since then? usual nothing! Hull KR got rid of sheens and they are talking about naming his replacement as early as sunday - how can we hope to attract top players if they dont know who they are even going to be coached by?!

the whole club is run like a joke
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ddtftf wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 am Lets be honest here, he looked at the team and the squad he was inheriting and thought my whole reputation could be put at stake with this lot . End of story
Bit ironic really as he's done more damage to his reputation than he would have done failing with the club that made him a legend, Legend status lost now in many folks eyes
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medlocke wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 9:25 am
ddtftf wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 8:13 am Lets be honest here, he looked at the team and the squad he was inheriting and thought my whole reputation could be put at stake with this lot . End of story
Bit ironic really as he's done more damage to his reputation than he would have done failing with the club that made him a legend, Legend status lost now in many folks eyes
really? you think RU are bothered about him turning his abck on WIgan?
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