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First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

Does he give more than Isa when you compare injury records, game time etc?

First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

he gives more in attack but a lot less in defence

First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

He only played in the Grand Final because Flower and Havard were injured.

Charriots Offiah wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:37 pm

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:10 am

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:05 am One that could potentially bite us in the backside.

Maybe but its a salary capped sport so that must have played a factor + Greenwood may see his opportunities dwindling with Farrell, Isa, Bateman likely to make up the most minutes in the 11, 12, 13 slots.

Would have prepared the following to depart first though to free up space:
Hankinson, Navarette, Jake Shorrocks, Mitch Clarke.

Let’s see who comes in.

Bateman surely?

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:39 pm

First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

Does he give more than Isa when you compare injury records, game time etc?

Not a chance,Isa is a workhorse yea but one who’s there every game sadly for whatever the reason the same couldn’t be said of Greenwood.

I wish him well though

First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

I think it's a hard one at times this. I must admit overall, I've always thought Greenwood offered more than Isa on his day (regardless of Greenwood's injury history). I think Isa has always been a squad player at best, until the GF. The grand final changed my whole outlook on Isa who I thought had an immense game.

nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:39 pm

First Try Tickle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 1:34 pm Its funny how he returned for the grand final after suspension but then not in the plans for next year. I know Bateman is back, but I would still want a big player like greenwood playing.

I know most wouldn't agree, but I think he gives more to the team than Isa.

Does he give more than Isa when you compare injury records, game time etc?

And, even without the durability, the criticism of Isa as a workhorse ignores the way he "leads the line" in defence - a major, major factor in us finishing top, and in our best performances imo.

Isa is in the team because he is relentless in defence, as are Partington and Smithies. He brings enthusiasm and desire to the team. However, he offers little in attack which for me is why Faz and Batty are ahead of him and they should be in the second row. Isa, in my view, is not a middle and consequently he wouldn’t make my starting line up if everyone is fit. His versatility may get him a place on the bench.

nathan_rugby wrote:

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:05 am One that could potentially bite us in the backside.

Maybe but its a salary capped sport so that must have played a factor + Greenwood may see his opportunities dwindling with Farrell, Isa, Bateman likely to make up the most minutes in the 11, 12, 13 slots.

Would have prepared the following to depart first though to free up space:
Hankinson, Navarette, Jake Shorrocks, Mitch Clarke.

God knows why anyone would put Isa in before Greenwood.

DaveO wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:59 pm

nathan_rugby wrote:

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:05 am One that could potentially bite us in the backside.

Maybe but its a salary capped sport so that must have played a factor + Greenwood may see his opportunities dwindling with Farrell, Isa, Bateman likely to make up the most minutes in the 11, 12, 13 slots.

Would have prepared the following to depart first though to free up space:
Hankinson, Navarette, Jake Shorrocks, Mitch Clarke.

God knows why anyone would put Isa in before Greenwood.

He's more consistent and better in defence?