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The Yonner wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:36 am I agree with Medlocke.

I can't think of any player who came back from a spell down under and was even the same as when he left let alone better. It's like the NRL takes something out of them.

Better to look at somebody new. Are we not interested in Blake Austin?

Meds as a point but would you seriously prefer austin than williams?

The Yonner wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:36 am I agree with Medlocke.

I can't think of any player who came back from a spell down under and was even the same as when he left let alone better. It's like the NRL takes something out of them.

Better to look at somebody new. Are we not interested in Blake Austin?

Zak hardakers better than when he left.

TL wasn't any worse.

Sarge came back the same.

I think it's more down to the games being slightly different and the fact that SLs top teams are not as far behind NRL teams as people spout.

All these players that come back look amazing vs weaker teams but "struggle" vs the better ones.

Caboosegg wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 9:35 am

The Yonner wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:36 am I agree with Medlocke.

I can't think of any player who came back from a spell down under and was even the same as when he left let alone better. It's like the NRL takes something out of them.

Better to look at somebody new. Are we not interested in Blake Austin?

Zak hardakers better than when he left.

TL wasn't any worse.

Sarge came back the same.

I think it's more down to the games being slightly different and the fact that SLs top teams are not as far behind NRL teams as people spout.

All these players that come back look amazing vs weaker teams but "struggle" vs the better ones.

And some players used to go in our off season and still come back the same……. Hanley, offiah, bell, lydon, gregory, edwards, hampson, goodway………although the game has changed dramatically since then

I think it might be slightly easier to look good in the NRL than here and some players drop off slightly because of that. Perhaps because the quialty of player is so consistently good, they can make your average plays work when the lesser SL players perhaps cant?

Bateman made a big splash in the NRL just out of being a very hard worker. He's come back and its not so obvious. I imagine Williams will return and be exactly the player he was when he left.

There may have been some players not as effective when they come back from a stint in Australia.

But I think George at the age he is would be better then when he left, well worth the risk, and if Ryan Sutton fancied it I would have him back also.

I think John Bateman will come good early days yet.

I agree, in recent years, players have gone down under on fire and seem to return with a different style.

I'd take Williams back fore sure. For my money, we need a game manager and Williams has shown he can do this (at 7 more importantly), in an elite competition.

I would say this depends on how much faith the club have in putting the same responsibilities Jackson has currently on Smiths shoulders for next season and beyond. Smith has alot of potential indeed and I think he improves week on week.

Austin for Wigan, definitely not! Doesn't even make the Wire team unless injury creeps in. Williams to Wire, money talks and Wire like to throw it around!

Even if George had been playing for us yesterday, we would have still lost because our front row were completely outplayed and until we get 2 big props to improve our go forward we will keep losing these type of games.
Unfortunately Williams is Wire bound. So suggest we spend the money on a couple of props and 2 centres as no doubt Gildart will try his hand at Nrl. No loss as he has hardly been on the field in the last 2 years.

We still need a replacement for Hastings though. And it's far from clear that Harry Smith will make the finished article.

I think we need an experienced playmaker with a good short and long kicking game, and yes I do think Blake Austin fits that role better than George.

williams no doubt is playing well over there behind a good pack and very experienced players .put him back in the wigan team and he will struggle

warriors01 wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:17 am Even if George had been playing for us yesterday, we would have still lost because our front row were completely outplayed and until we get 2 big props to improve our go forward we will keep losing these type of games.
Unfortunately Williams is Wire bound. So suggest we spend the money on a couple of props and 2 centres as no doubt Gildart will try his hand at Nrl. No loss as he has hardly been on the field in the last 2 years.

You have definite knowledge of this?