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Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:03 pm
by ddtftf
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:31 am
Dawson26 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:11 am We need a winger french is best at fb we got Marshall who is oft injured n the bee guy - centres hardaker n Bibby possibly - need a Strike centre to replace gildart - thornley not the answer
We should have retained Davies, he is far better than what we have got.
Tom Davies is on 4 times the Wigan salary to told me when we were in the same hotel in Cornwall

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:53 pm
by Wiganer Ted
Perhaps a centre would be Reece Lyne at Wakefield. He was OOC this year but don't know if he's re-signed for them or going elsewhere. Not the greatest but always looks handy and made Waney's original England squad.

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 4:15 pm
by Dan2266
Wiganer Ted wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:53 pm Perhaps a centre would be Reece Lyne at Wakefield. He was OOC this year but don't know if he's re-signed for them or going elsewhere. Not the greatest but always looks handy and made Waney's original England squad.
Reece Lyne signed a new deal last week pal

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:50 pm
by Charriots Offiah
ddtftf wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:03 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:31 am
Dawson26 wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:11 am We need a winger french is best at fb we got Marshall who is oft injured n the bee guy - centres hardaker n Bibby possibly - need a Strike centre to replace gildart - thornley not the answer
We should have retained Davies, he is far better than what we have got.
Tom Davies is on 4 times the Wigan salary to told me when we were in the same hotel in Cornwall
He was on a pittance at Wigan. We should have kept him and paid him accordingly.

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:04 am
by the pieman
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:50 pm
ddtftf wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:03 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 12:31 am

We should have retained Davies, he is far better than what we have got.
Tom Davies is on 4 times the Wigan salary to told me when we were in the same hotel in Cornwall
He was on a pittance at Wigan. We should have kept him and paid him accordingly.
unfortunately we had 4 excellent wingers all wanting 1st team action and all home grown talent. With that situation you cant keep all 4 happy and pay them decent 1st team salaries. In hindsight we would have kept Tom with what has happened to Dom and Budgie, but you cant predict that. Just as an example if we paid them all £100k, thats £200k sat in the stands of the salary cap, so no club could sustain that

Fair play to Tom for wanting regular 1st team rugby and subsequently getting the rewards at Catalan of regular rugby and salary for that

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:16 am
by Charriots Offiah
the pieman wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:04 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:50 pm
ddtftf wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 2:03 pm

Tom Davies is on 4 times the Wigan salary to told me when we were in the same hotel in Cornwall
He was on a pittance at Wigan. We should have kept him and paid him accordingly.
unfortunately we had 4 excellent wingers all wanting 1st team action and all home grown talent. With that situation you cant keep all 4 happy and pay them decent 1st team salaries. In hindsight we would have kept Tom with what has happened to Dom and Budgie, but you cant predict that. Just as an example if we paid them all £100k, thats £200k sat in the stands of the salary cap, so no club could sustain that

Fair play to Tom for wanting regular 1st team rugby and subsequently getting the rewards at Catalan of regular rugby and salary for that
But we were paying him a pitiful salary for a player of his quality and therefore by keeping him on our books we wouldn’t have had £100k sat in the stands unless it was Budgie or Dom. If that had happened then it should have become obvious that it was time to move one of them on, not Tom. For a team like Wigan to finish up with only one winger in our squad is a disgrace.

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:05 am
by nathan_rugby
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:16 am
the pieman wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:04 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 9:50 pm

He was on a pittance at Wigan. We should have kept him and paid him accordingly.
unfortunately we had 4 excellent wingers all wanting 1st team action and all home grown talent. With that situation you cant keep all 4 happy and pay them decent 1st team salaries. In hindsight we would have kept Tom with what has happened to Dom and Budgie, but you cant predict that. Just as an example if we paid them all £100k, thats £200k sat in the stands of the salary cap, so no club could sustain that

Fair play to Tom for wanting regular 1st team rugby and subsequently getting the rewards at Catalan of regular rugby and salary for that
But we were paying him a pitiful salary for a player of his quality and therefore by keeping him on our books we wouldn’t have had £100k sat in the stands unless it was Budgie or Dom. If that had happened then it should have become obvious that it was time to move one of them on, not Tom. For a team like Wigan to finish up with only one winger in our squad is a disgrace.
It isn’t always as easy as “moving one of them on”. If budgie and Dom have a contract at the time then that’s that.

I do agree though in hindsight we should have kept him.

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:16 pm
by stevo38
ive heard there could be some sort of deal between miller and hardaker

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:27 pm
by keptinthedarkfans
stevo38 wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:16 pm ive heard there could be some sort of deal between miller and hardaker
I've heard Beatles playing at jjb they are same odds

Re: Eden & Miller To Wigan ?

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:01 pm
by Charriots Offiah
nathan_rugby wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:05 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:16 am
the pieman wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:04 am

unfortunately we had 4 excellent wingers all wanting 1st team action and all home grown talent. With that situation you cant keep all 4 happy and pay them decent 1st team salaries. In hindsight we would have kept Tom with what has happened to Dom and Budgie, but you cant predict that. Just as an example if we paid them all £100k, thats £200k sat in the stands of the salary cap, so no club could sustain that

Fair play to Tom for wanting regular 1st team rugby and subsequently getting the rewards at Catalan of regular rugby and salary for that
But we were paying him a pitiful salary for a player of his quality and therefore by keeping him on our books we wouldn’t have had £100k sat in the stands unless it was Budgie or Dom. If that had happened then it should have become obvious that it was time to move one of them on, not Tom. For a team like Wigan to finish up with only one winger in our squad is a disgrace.
It isn’t always as easy as “moving one of them on”. If budgie and Dom have a contract at the time then that’s that.

I do agree though in hindsight we should have kept him.
I agree it is not always straightforward.