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Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:13 am
by pedro
Mike wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:21 am
pedro wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:48 pm
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:27 pm

We have signed 2 NRL props... should we hand it to IL?
they sign a star we sign 2 lads who barely make it into the 17
So why's he coming to SL than if he's such a star? Money, surely not? Skeletons in the closet - more than likely, that's the only reason a prime aussie will come over.
why cant it be money? If its marquee money that can be a lot and nearing the top of the aussie contracts, the only people we wont see are internationals as it kills their chances of being selected for Aus and NZ

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:24 am
by Fujiman
pedro wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:13 am
Mike wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 4:21 am
pedro wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 10:48 pm

they sign a star we sign 2 lads who barely make it into the 17
So why's he coming to SL than if he's such a star? Money, surely not? Skeletons in the closet - more than likely, that's the only reason a prime aussie will come over.
why cant it be money? If its marquee money that can be a lot and nearing the top of the aussie contracts, the only people we wont see are internationals as it kills their chances of being selected for Aus and NZ
Also stops him playing SOO as well

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:30 am
by widdenoldboy
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:27 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:51 pm You have to hand it them,they’re going for it and backing Wolfe to the hilt
We have signed 2 NRL props... should we hand it to IL?
Yes, but the Wigan signings are "project" players - neither are regular starters for their teams (as far as I know) so maybe have their best years to come and at Wigan.
Sironen is a fringe Origin player and the Roosters guy is top draw (if they do sign him).

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:15 pm
by Charriots Offiah
widdenoldboy wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:30 am
Caboosegg wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:27 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 4:51 pm You have to hand it them,they’re going for it and backing Wolfe to the hilt
We have signed 2 NRL props... should we hand it to IL?
Yes, but the Wigan signings are "project" players - neither are regular starters for their teams (as far as I know) so maybe have their best years to come and at Wigan.
Sironen is a fringe Origin player and the Roosters guy is top draw (if they do sign him).
They won’t be able to get other top Aussies under the cap. Interestingly, Sironen was only being paid about £215k in Australia.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm
by Warrior20
Why is everyone raving over Sironen? He isn’t that good.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:12 pm
by Caboosegg
Warrior20 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm Why is everyone raving over Sironen? He isn’t that good.
Because it can be used to bash the club.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 11:59 pm
by Mike
Caboosegg wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:12 pm
Warrior20 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm Why is everyone raving over Sironen? He isn’t that good.
Because it can be used to bash the club.
It's a convenient narrative right now. Find the problems, ignore the areas of improvement.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:45 pm
by widdenoldboy
Warrior20 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 6:11 pm Why is everyone raving over Sironen? He isn’t that good.
He has a higher standing than the two we are getting, they have youth on their side so heres hoping.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:35 pm
by God2
Sironen has been extremely injury prone, I’m comfortable Saints having him, could be another Thompson. On the other hand if they get him fit, this is a very big ex stand off on the edges and can be unplayable. I’m not sure what we will get.

Ellis is a tackle machine, I’ve seen enough of him to say he’s going to be a good player for us, very big and strong who averages around 30-40 tackles a game.

Mago is impact, definitely not a starter, if we start him he won’t be as effective and fans will get on his back. Souths are not happy he is going, a very strong runner of the ball.

The two forwards will compliment what we already have, just need one more imo another big quick lad and that’s the pack sorted.

Singleton
Partington
Byrne
Mago
Ellis
Havard
One other.

We are adding significant size to the squad, Thornley although this is the third time he has been here is a big lad, is hardly ever injured. Miski a very strong winger carries out of yardage extremely well I can see why we will be using a quota on him.

A halfback who can kick and another prop and we will be very competitive next season. French will be like a new signing.

Re: SAINTS SECURE SIRONEN ON A TWO YEAR DEAL FOR 2022

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2021 9:57 pm
by DaveO
If you watched the HKR v Leigh game at magic you’d see how poor Thornley is. He was awful.