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Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
by pedro
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:03 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:24 pm
God2 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
Thornley is a good player and his try to games equally impressive has scored over 20 try’s in a very poor Leigh side.
6 foot 6 and nearly 16 stone it’s a no brainier.
Does the hard yards and tough carries. He’s nowhere near as bad as people are making out and thats a fact.
his defence if terrible
Is it?
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:20 pm
by morley pie eater
DaveO wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:21 pm
Presumably you think Zak should be at centre and French at FB? As you say neither likely to be available from the start of the season.
If so it's surely nailed on the centres will be Thornley and Bibby. Bibby is not a centre and Thornley is not good enough. It still blows my mind that knowing we needed at least one centre IL & Rads went and recruited Thornley. IL's very positive comments about him are unwarranted. If he actually believes what he said and it wasn't just a PR job he's on crack.
Is it true that the club have booked you to do a motivational talk to the players in the New Year, Dave?
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:37 pm
by Caboosegg
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:03 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:24 pm
his defence if terrible
Is it?
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
So your opinion is based of 1 games?
Again not saying anything right or wrong as I didn't watch enough leigh Matches to know if he was good or bad but his stats don't say his defence is bad. Don't say its great either.
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:40 pm
by pedro
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:37 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
So your opinion is based of 1 games?
Again not saying anything right or wrong as I didn't watch enough leigh Matches to know if he was good or bad but his stats don't say his defence is bad. Don't say its great either.
no its just a game I thought you might have access too, no Leigh fan I know is sad to see him go, I went to a few Leigh games last year and was shocked when we signed him
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
by nathan_rugby
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
Caboosegg wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:03 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:24 pm
his defence if terrible
Is it?
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
Did these tries go down his inside or outside shoulder ?
What was the positioning like of his two inside men? Presumably a halfback and second rower?
Did the winger defend the touch line?
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:59 pm
by pedro
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
Did these tries go down his inside or outside shoulder ?
What was the positioning like of his two inside men? Presumably a halfback and second rower?
Did the winger defend the touch line?
he was out of position for most of the runs down that side, go watch it on wigan tv,
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:28 pm
by nathan_rugby
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:59 pm
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:50 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:04 pm
very much so, wacth our game v leigh last year when we came back, nearly everything went down his channel
Did these tries go down his inside or outside shoulder ?
What was the positioning like of his two inside men? Presumably a halfback and second rower?
Did the winger defend the touch line?
he was out of position for most of the runs down that side, go watch it on wigan tv,
Did the tries go down his inside or outside ?
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:01 pm
by pedro
both
Re: Centres
Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:07 pm
by nathan_rugby
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:01 pmboth
Ones on the inside aren’t his fault.
Rule number 1 - you defend your outside shoulder.
If someone’s coming on his inside then the question needs to be asked to who was next to him.
Seems you’ve made a decision about Thornleys defence without a good understanding of defence.
Re: Centres
Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:09 am
by pedro
nathan_rugby wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:07 pm
pedro wrote: ↑Thu Dec 23, 2021 9:01 pmboth
Ones on the inside aren’t his fault.
Rule number 1 - you defend your outside shoulder.
If someone’s coming on his inside then the question needs to be asked to who was next to him.
Seems you’ve made a decision about Thornleys defence without a good understanding of defence.
ok, so if you've got your body in the wrong place and show someone the outside and he steps you thats not your fault? Of course it is, the slide isnt a foot away from you so cant cover that....watch the game and see how many times hes out of position.....rule number 1 is take your man.