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Re: 2024.
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 pm
by widdenoldboy
Jonh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:32 am
pedro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:15 pm
he needs a far better season than last for me, I know its an unpopular opinion but he was average
If you are talking about Cust I agree.
He showed signs of real quality at times but didn’t do it consistently enough, sometimes being dominated by Smith who should be the junior partner of the 2.
He has all the skills, but I’d like to see him take on the line a little more and be more commanding.
Agreed, being injured for long spells cut both ways for him and you'd have to mark him as average but an encouraging first season.
He did take the line on more v HKR in the first half but not so much in the 2nd (probably due to poor field position) and got smashed a couple of times, funnily enough the defender(s) didn't get a yellow
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:26 am
by jaws1
lot out of contract at end of season time to do a Warrington and rebuild
Wigan Warriors – 11
Mike Cooper (option for another year), Cade Cust (option for another year), Kaide Ellis (option for another year), Toby King (loan), Willie Isa, Patrick Mago (option for another year), Abbas Miski (option for another year), Ramon Silva (option for another year), Brad Singleton, Morgan Smithies, Iain Thornley (option for another year).
https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-lea ... -to-make/
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:28 am
by medlocke
Keep Cust and Smithies, replace the rest on that list and also talk Powell into moving on
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:41 am
by southportcdm
2024 is already looking like it could involve a major re-build. We'll probably need three new props and two backrowers before we even start to look at the finer details of the squad. A decent signing later this season could help a bit in one of these two areas. Hopefully Cust will develop and stay and King will find good enough form to avoid adding further problems.
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 12:23 pm
by Charriots Offiah
jaws1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:26 am
lot out of contract at end of season time to do a Warrington and rebuild
Wigan Warriors – 11
Mike Cooper (option for another year), Cade Cust (option for another year), Kaide Ellis (option for another year), Toby King (loan), Willie Isa, Patrick Mago (option for another year), Abbas Miski (option for another year), Ramon Silva (option for another year), Brad Singleton, Morgan Smithies, Iain Thornley (option for another year).
https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-lea ... -to-make/
Whist I don’t disagree that some need to move on, where do we find these replacements.
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:55 pm
by pedro
widdenoldboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 pm
Jonh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:32 am
pedro wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:15 pm
he needs a far better season than last for me, I know its an unpopular opinion but he was average
If you are talking about Cust I agree.
He showed signs of real quality at times but didn’t do it consistently enough, sometimes being dominated by Smith who should be the junior partner of the 2.
He has all the skills, but I’d like to see him take on the line a little more and be more commanding.
Agreed, being injured for long spells cut both ways for him and you'd have to mark him as average but an encouraging first season.
He did take the line on more v HKR in the first half but not so much in the 2nd (probably due to poor field position) and got smashed a couple of times, funnily enough the defender(s) didn't get a yellow
cant really say against HKR as no half back is going to have a good game behind a beaten pack which we were
Re: 2024.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:29 pm
by jobo
pedro wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:55 pm
widdenoldboy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:41 pm
Jonh wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 11:32 am
If you are talking about Cust I agree.
He showed signs of real quality at times but didn’t do it consistently enough, sometimes being dominated by Smith who should be the junior partner of the 2.
He has all the skills, but I’d like to see him take on the line a little more and be more commanding.
Agreed, being injured for long spells cut both ways for him and you'd have to mark him as average but an encouraging first season.
He did take the line on more v HKR in the first half but not so much in the 2nd (probably due to poor field position) and got smashed a couple of times, funnily enough the defender(s) didn't get a yellow
cant really say against HKR as no half back is going to have a good game behind a beaten pack which we were
That's the bottom line.
Re: 2024.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 8:38 am
by ian.birchall
All very well but with those surnames I might have to stick to Christian names if I want to shout abuse at them.
Re: 2024.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:14 pm
by the pieman
jaws1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:26 am
lot out of contract at end of season time to do a Warrington and rebuild
Wigan Warriors – 11
Mike Cooper (option for another year), Cade Cust (option for another year), Kaide Ellis (option for another year), Toby King (loan), Willie Isa, Patrick Mago (option for another year), Abbas Miski (option for another year), Ramon Silva (option for another year), Brad Singleton, Morgan Smithies, Iain Thornley (option for another year).
https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-lea ... -to-make/
this is the big challenge for us for next year and perhaps the couple beyond that, in terms of whether we are going to be realistically challenging for trophies
on here it is felt that there are 4-5 of the current players out of contract who shouldnt be offered new ones (that rises to 7/8 or 9 in some fans cases). We have lost Bateman from this seasons playing rosta and already know KPP is over to Oz next season.
however, look at the list of OoC players across SL. I genuinely dont think you could replace most of them if we were to lose up to 9 of those players with a player of equal or better quality from SL.
so we either retain more than the fans would want or we need to lose all the overseas players who are out of contract to be able to bring in some big names from Oz / NZ. From the list there are potentially 5 overseas players we could be losing. Ideally we would retain Cust (subject to form), so that we get some stability from a 1/2 back partnership and build around this for the next few years.
so over to Meds for his fantasy 4 picks to replace the potentially departing overseas players
Re: 2024.
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:10 pm
by medlocke
the pieman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:14 pm
jaws1 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:26 am
lot out of contract at end of season time to do a Warrington and rebuild
Wigan Warriors – 11
Mike Cooper (option for another year), Cade Cust (option for another year), Kaide Ellis (option for another year), Toby King (loan), Willie Isa, Patrick Mago (option for another year), Abbas Miski (option for another year), Ramon Silva (option for another year), Brad Singleton, Morgan Smithies, Iain Thornley (option for another year).
https://www.totalrl.com/every-super-lea ... -to-make/
this is the big challenge for us for next year and perhaps the couple beyond that, in terms of whether we are going to be realistically challenging for trophies
on here it is felt that there are 4-5 of the current players out of contract who shouldnt be offered new ones (that rises to 7/8 or 9 in some fans cases). We have lost Bateman from this seasons playing rosta and already know KPP is over to Oz next season.
however, look at the list of OoC players across SL. I genuinely dont think you could replace most of them if we were to lose up to 9 of those players with a player of equal or better quality from SL.
so we either retain more than the fans would want or we need to lose all the overseas players who are out of contract to be able to bring in some big names from Oz / NZ. From the list there are potentially 5 overseas players we could be losing. Ideally we would retain Cust (subject to form), so that we get some stability from a 1/2 back partnership and build around this for the next few years.
so over to Meds for his fantasy 4 picks to replace the potentially departing overseas players
It's a head scratcher to be honest, plenty of NRL players on offer but not a clue who anyone is
, looking at our ooc players again I think we should retain Cooper for another season and Singleton depending on their performances this year along with Cust and Smithies, replace the rest and Powel if possible, bringing in 4 from the NRL, Centre, 2 props (JWH still rumoured), Hooker & 2nd Row, I'll add some names just for consistency
Ben Trbojevic
Luke Thompson
Jayden Nikorima
Aaron Woods
Michael Chee Kam