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NICKYKISS wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:35 pm

Southern Softy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:03 pm I'm a bit baffled as to why Ethan Havard should want to be 'more aggressive,' When forwards do this it's quite often cartoon posturing to make up for lack of quality. Would you like Faz to start start shouting and screaming for example? It wouldn't make him a better player.
Havard goes about his work very effectively and his talent is obvious. It's why the NRL is interested and why we should try and keep hold of him for as long as possible. His stats seem to be much the same as Smithies (except in conceding penalties) despite Havard being used in bursts as opposed to being on the pitch for the whole game.
They are both valuable players in their own way but one can be wound up and be a liability when that happens and unfair as it might be, it makes referees look out for them.

Aggression isn’t just squaring up to people or giving penalties away though, it’s running hard, trying to smash people in defence, scrapping for every inch, every loose ball etc and I think he can improve massively in those areas. He seems a laid back lad but even at his current level he’s a fine player but he will do himself a disservice if he doesn’t push for more in his career. I look at Smithies and those areas are his strengths but he hasn’t been blessed with the physical attributes Havard has (which is maybe why they’re different in terms of temperament and mentality).

It isn’t just you saying about Smithies discipline and I’ve had this with opposition fans who talk about him like he’s James Bentley in terms of being an idiot. The lad gave away 4 penalties in the whole of 2022! That is unbelievable! Zero reds and zero yellows. He hasn’t had as good a start to this season granted but I’m not concerned. No team can afford to have a pack full of ‘nice lads’ and you always need somebody to lead you in the effort areas. We had Micky Mac in the past, Saints have Knowles (who keeps getting banned by the way) and so on.

Fujiman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:52 am Just read on other site that Cust & Marshy are doubts for tonight.

Fujiman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:52 am Just read on other site that Cust & Marshy are doubts for tonight.

Firestarter wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 11:04 am

Fujiman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:52 am Just read on other site that Cust & Marshy are doubts for tonight.

Apart from the obvious what is actually up with cust?

fozzieskem wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:04 pm Smithees to me a bit of an enigma he’s stood still and I’m not sure at the moment 13 is getting the best out of him but I feel he’s one of those players that’ll get better as they get older so plenty of time for him to blossom out into wherever suits him best.

josie andrews wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 12:03 pm

fozzieskem wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:04 pm Smithees to me a bit of an enigma he’s stood still and I’m not sure at the moment 13 is getting the best out of him but I feel he’s one of those players that’ll get better as they get older so plenty of time for him to blossom out into wherever suits him best.

Morgan is still only 22. I know he seems to have been in the team for a while, but he is still young.