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Re: Potential swap

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:37 pm
by Bobby-WRL
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 3:29 pm
Bobby-WRL wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:58 pm Didn’t Bevan re-sign after the semi final? It was announced then at least.
Bateman we have been told by the club was November/December - 2 months later
?

Apologies I was referring to the marquee players mentioned. Surely where has Batemans cap allowance gone?

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 pm
by Charriots Offiah
The Pearl1 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:41 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:08 pm
The Pearl1 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 1:44 pm Outs

KPP
Mago
Miski
Cust
Singleton
Silva
Cooper (I’ve not been overly impressed)

Offer Ellis a new deal, Isa another deal on squad player money.

In

NRL prop pack leader

JWH might fancies a few years in Europe to end his career seems to have build a good relationship with Wigan over the years ( WCCs, Madge night, close with Tommy etc)

Jordan McLean cowboys is off contract 6 foot 5 19 stone. Only got a one year extension with the cowboys so a 2/3 year deal could tempt.

(replacing Batemans and Coopers wage)

Tom Davies - pace, English, good ball carry, knows the club (replacing Cust wage)

Sam Eseh - project signing, looks a raw talent who could kick on in our system (replacing Silvas)

Owen Trout - young, English, tall athletic (replacing Singletons)

Chris Satae/ NRL prop impact prop off the bench (replacing Magos)

NRL back rower in the Mau’tatia Sironen type

Look at the offcontract list I’d look at Tariq Sims (bit old but played origin just last year, brothers came to SL, good stop gap)

Or Tyson Frizell always admired how he’s played but maybe been off the boil in recent years.

(Replacing KPP and Miski)

Toby King (probably another years loan then permanent after his contract expires)

French
Davies
King
Wardle
Marshall
Field
Smith
Byrne
Powell
JWH/McLean
Sims/Frizell
Farrell
Smithies

Havard
Satae/NRL prop
O’Neill
Ellis

Shorrocks
Trout
Isa
Thornley (keep as cover if he can stay fit this year)
Hampshire (see Thornley)
Hill
Nsemba
Astley
Eseh
Douglas
Eckersley
Forber

Think that’s realistic looking at salaries. Just about getting the right players from the NRL which is tricky.

Looks a serious squad with a good mix of youth and experience IMO.
Bateman’s salary has already been used!
On what? There’s been no one or outs since his departure and the club have said they are saving the salary as there is nobody of that calibre to panic sign
They do have money available but nowhere near the £150k allowed for Bateman.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am
by nathan_rugby
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 pm
The Pearl1 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:41 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:08 pm

Bateman’s salary has already been used!
On what? There’s been no one or outs since his departure and the club have said they are saving the salary as there is nobody of that calibre to panic sign
They do have money available but nowhere near the £150k allowed for Bateman.
Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
by Charriots Offiah
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 pm
The Pearl1 wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 4:41 pm
On what? There’s been no one or outs since his departure and the club have said they are saving the salary as there is nobody of that calibre to panic sign
They do have money available but nowhere near the £150k allowed for Bateman.
Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.
No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:35 am
by The Pearl1
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 pm

They do have money available but nowhere near the £150k allowed for Bateman.
Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.
No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.
Well yeah, let’s say Bateman and French were marquees before Bateman left.

Field will be over the marquee threshold so will have taken a marquee spot.

Thus leaving Fields salary available.

You’re not making sense

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:05 am
by pedro
The Pearl1 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:35 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am

Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.
No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.
Well yeah, let’s say Bateman and French were marquees before Bateman left.

Field will be over the marquee threshold so will have taken a marquee spot.

Thus leaving Fields salary available.

You’re not making sense
I dont think there is one, its upto the club to choose which salary is used for this, youd think it was the 2 largest salaries as it makes sense too

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:26 am
by The Pearl1
pedro wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:05 am
The Pearl1 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:35 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am

No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.
Well yeah, let’s say Bateman and French were marquees before Bateman left.

Field will be over the marquee threshold so will have taken a marquee spot.

Thus leaving Fields salary available.

You’re not making sense
I dont think there is one, its upto the club to choose which salary is used for this, youd think it was the 2 largest salaries as it makes sense too
Yeah I just mean over the £150k

Let me make up numbers to explain

French on 220k
Bateman on 200k
Field on 180k

French and Bateman marque players so they are only on the cap for £150k each, with field still being on the cap for £180k.

Bateman leaving means Field will become marque and on the cap for £150k.

Meaning his £180k salary space becomes available.


Still can’t understand where the Charriots Offiah thinks Batemans salary cap space has gone, we can still being using 2 marques but the cap space should still be there.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:05 pm
by josie andrews
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am
Charriots Offiah wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 pm

They do have money available but nowhere near the £150k allowed for Bateman.
Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.
No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.

And who are they please??

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:35 pm
by Charriots Offiah
josie andrews wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 2:05 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:24 am
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:48 am

Can you elaborate? It doesn’t make sense given he was last one out of the door.
No I can't but the information has come from an inside source. The only thing I will say is that we have two marquee players currently on our books.

And who are they please??
Field and French.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 3:37 pm
by Charriots Offiah
The Pearl1 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:26 am
pedro wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:05 am
The Pearl1 wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:35 am

Well yeah, let’s say Bateman and French were marquees before Bateman left.

Field will be over the marquee threshold so will have taken a marquee spot.

Thus leaving Fields salary available.

You’re not making sense
I dont think there is one, its upto the club to choose which salary is used for this, youd think it was the 2 largest salaries as it makes sense too
Yeah I just mean over the £150k

Let me make up numbers to explain

French on 220k
Bateman on 200k
Field on 180k

French and Bateman marque players so they are only on the cap for £150k each, with field still being on the cap for £180k.

Bateman leaving means Field will become marque and on the cap for £150k.

Meaning his £180k salary space becomes available.


Still can’t understand where the Charriots Offiah thinks Batemans salary cap space has gone, we can still being using 2 marques but the cap space should still be there.
Mate, I can only say so much otherwise the guy who told me may get into a little trouble. All I will add is that some of Bateman’s salary has been spent on other players and if he had stayed we would have had a problem with the salary cap.