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Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm
by fozzieskem
God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
by the pieman
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:50 pm
by Charriots Offiah
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
IMG are considering proposing a third marquee player.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:54 pm
by medlocke
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:50 pm
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
IMG are considering proposing a third marquee player.
They should do that and also make 5 club produced players exempt up to the age of 23

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:06 pm
by Charriots Offiah
medlocke wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:54 pm
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:50 pm
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm

unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
IMG are considering proposing a third marquee player.
They should do that and also make 5 club produced players exempt up to the age of 23
I agree.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:14 pm
by nathan_rugby
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
What do you mean it’s an isolating factor?

I don’t think it’s common knowledge across most fans who is marquee and how much people are paid.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:32 am
by Caboosegg
The marquee rule would be great if the backwards RLF didn't make earnings outside if rugby count on the cap.

I still remember watching the chase a couple of years ago and the question was who was the rugby league England captain. It was lockers at the time and I just thought if it was another sport they would have know the answer because a name that big in the sport would be plastered on TV.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:47 pm
by fozzieskem
Charriots Offiah wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 8:50 pm
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
IMG are considering proposing a third marquee player.
I'm more convinced than ever IMG havent a single original thought in their heads

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:53 pm
by Mike
They are every quiet IMG, it has to be said. They didn't seem to come into the game with a clear strategy on what they wanted to do otherwise we'd have heard of it by now.

Re: Potential swap

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 8:36 am
by the pieman
nathan_rugby wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:14 pm
the pieman wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 7:55 pm
fozzieskem wrote: Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:16 pm God I hate the marquee rule and the cap even more does nothing but hold the sport.back.
unfortunately the marquee rule was brought in as the cap had been so poorly managed over a number of years. I didnt like much that Koukash added to the game as i think he was a lot of bravado and bluster, but he did push for the marquee (or 2nd one). At least the marquee you can pay over and above the cap but theres a chance that it is an isolating factor too when fans know that player x is marquee and paid £x thousands
What do you mean it’s an isolating factor?

I don’t think it’s common knowledge across most fans who is marquee and how much people are paid.
pretty sure you know what i mean

you only need to come on here to see what i mean with some examples off the top of my head below

George Williams
John Bateman
Sam Tomkins
poss George Burgess

all roundly slated on a weekly basis for being marquee player and not being worthy of the money.

i dont profess to knowing what any player earns or have any inside knowledge, but many posting on here have / claim to have knowledge or at best an educated guess

tell me that being a marquee doesnt come with at minimum expectations of the fans, and that soon fans can turn against them. Equally there's a chance of resentment within the changing rooms (i know that can happen without the marquee rule) if players know what others earn