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medlocke wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:42 am

NICKYKISS wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:03 pm

medlocke wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:33 pm
So explain all the other props that have failed at Wigan over the past decade, somethings going wrong somewhere

I was responding to somebody who picked up this coaching staff about Mago’s performance, as though they’ve ruined him. Peet, Lockers, Leuluai etc didn’t sign Singleton either and he’s equally as bad but they’re doing absolutely fine in working with and improving Byrne, Havard, Ellis, Hill etc and Cooper was going well before his injury. I’ve no issue with the blame being laid at the door of the team of people who’ve recruited some of the dross we’ve had at prop but the poster made it sound like we’d signed a World Beater in Mago and ruined him. I’m simply pointing out that his NRL career was next to nothing to write home about, so I wouldn’t be too surprised that he’s not pulled up trees here. It’s tough to get more out of a player who looks like the game is a paid holiday to him.

Ok, what ever is going on has been going on longer than Peet, Lockers & Lulu, so I can't really blame them for that, we have had players who where far better before coming to Wigan than they where at Wigan, Jeff Lima, Big Frank, Epalahame Lauaki, etc

Shevvylad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:03 pm Frank Paul once told me ( at a funeral of all places ) that Wane had instructed him when he arrived at Wigan, that he should go to ground at the first contact carrying the ball, so as to speed up the ptb. This may well have been the same instruction given to these other props, and goes against what made them attractive signings in the first place.....

widdenoldboy wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:40 pm Happened to watch last seasons CC QF, Wakey v Wigan yesterday.

Probably the last tome Mago had a good impact on the game....also noted some other things.

Bateman was immense, always looking to create something.
Field was supporting up the middle much more and took some great balls from Mago!
Hardaker also looked good - it was his last game for us if I recall correctly?

Generally we played with a high temp on both sides of the ball, maybe the last time we really clicked and blew a team off the park.

Blackpool_Pie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:12 pm

Shevvylad wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:03 pm Frank Paul once told me ( at a funeral of all places ) that Wane had instructed him when he arrived at Wigan, that he should go to ground at the first contact carrying the ball, so as to speed up the ptb. This may well have been the same instruction given to these other props, and goes against what made them attractive signings in the first place.....

I'm not sure that's the case when you see players like Hill, Havard and Nsemba driving those post contact meters

NICKYKISS wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:13 pm

Pbickerstaff wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:03 pm Can’t believe it
Mago came from oz a class prop playing at the highest level
He is the only forward that passes in a tackle
The issue is down to this years shite training staff who can’t motivate and train him to the English game
Ffs he is way above singleton

They manage to train and motivate most of the other players. He was a bit part player at every club he was ever at in the NRL and it’s been easy enough to see why. The lad just looks like he happens to be ok at a game he can make a living from, other than that, I just don’t think it means much to him.

NICKYKISS wrote: ↑Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:46 pm Typical timing today, with Mago having his best game in a good while. He ran with vigour, made a couple of sensible offloads and looked threatening in his spells. Days like today just frustrate you a bit more though in regards to why he can’t produce more often. There’s no lack of power or ability.